Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-22 Thread Tapir
On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:04:44 PM UTC+8, Vinny P wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Rafael > > wrote: > >> The scheduler logic >> > > > Regarding the scheduler, this is my favorite thread regarding the subject: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/sA3o-PTAckc/T2

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-22 Thread Tapir
On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:04:44 PM UTC+8, Vinny P wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Rafael > > wrote: > >> The scheduler logic >> > > > Regarding the scheduler, this is my favorite thread regarding the subject: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/sA3o-PTAckc/T2

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-22 Thread Tapir
On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:04:44 PM UTC+8, Vinny P wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Rafael > > wrote: > >> The scheduler logic >> > > > Regarding the scheduler, this is my favorite thread regarding the subject: > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/sA3o-PTAckc/T2

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-21 Thread Vinny P
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Rafael wrote: > The scheduler logic > Regarding the scheduler, this is my favorite thread regarding the subject: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/sA3o-PTAckc/T2eA64xZ1m0J It's a bit long (over 100+ posts) but it has some interesting discussion.

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-21 Thread Tapir
On Saturday, February 22, 2014 2:22:56 AM UTC+8, Rafael Sanches wrote: > > The scheduler logic doesn't make any sense for java apps. For frontend > serving I would rather just use a scheduler that boots one instance at time > and would spread traffic linearly through all instances. This would b

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-21 Thread Rafael
The scheduler logic doesn't make any sense for java apps. For frontend serving I would rather just use a scheduler that boots one instance at time and would spread traffic linearly through all instances. This would be more reliable due to the issues with warm up. I have to keep 6 useless instances

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-21 Thread Tapir
On Friday, February 21, 2014 3:29:37 PM UTC+8, Vinny P wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Tapir > > wrote: > >> So for the app with warmup problems, to avoid the warmup the problem, the >> real free hours would be only a little more than 4 hours, right? >> And for the 15 minutes tax de

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-21 Thread Tapir
On Friday, February 21, 2014 3:29:37 PM UTC+8, Vinny P wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Tapir > > wrote: > >> So for the app with warmup problems, to avoid the warmup the problem, the >> real free hours would be only a little more than 4 hours, right? >> And for the 15 minutes tax de

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Vinny P
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Tapir wrote: > So for the app with warmup problems, to avoid the warmup the problem, the > real free hours would be only a little more than 4 hours, right? > And for the 15 minutes tax design, the "a little more than 4 hours" is > about several minutes in fact, ri

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Tapir
On Friday, February 21, 2014 2:58:35 PM UTC+8, Vinny P wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Tapir > > wrote: > >> Resident instances do serve traffic. All the traffic of my paid python >> app are served by the resident instance. Part of the traffic of my paid >> java app are also serve

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Vinny P
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Tapir wrote: > Resident instances do serve traffic. All the traffic of my paid python app > are served by the resident instance. Part of the traffic of my paid java > app are also served by the resident instance. > Resident instances do serve traffic, but most

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Tapir
On Friday, February 21, 2014 1:11:12 AM UTC+8, Kristopher Giesing wrote: > > Because by definition, resident instances don't serve any traffic. That > means you are eating up 24 instance hours of idle time each day, leaving > you only four hours each day to serve traffic. > Resident instances

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Kristopher Giesing
Because by definition, resident instances don't serve any traffic. That means you are eating up 24 instance hours of idle time each day, leaving you only four hours each day to serve traffic. I had this exact problem while my app was in development, and I couldn't figure out why Java developer

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:22:05 PM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:45:43 PM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >>> >>> >>> > > My app is still in the development stage. It has a sm

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Barry Hunter
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Tapir wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:45:43 PM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> My app is still in the development stage. It has a small traffic now (< >>> 1000 pageviews/day). >>> I really need a workable configuration which wil

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:45:43 PM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > >>> >>> >> >> My app is still in the development stage. It has a small traffic now (< >> 1000 pageviews/day). >> I really need a workable configuration which will make sure it will never >> be charged more than 28 hours

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:45:43 PM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > >>> >>> >> >> My app is still in the development stage. It has a small traffic now (< >> 1000 pageviews/day). >> I really need a workable configuration which will make sure it will never >> be charged more than 28 hours

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-20 Thread Barry Hunter
> >> >> > > My app is still in the development stage. It has a small traffic now (< > 1000 pageviews/day). > I really need a workable configuration which will make sure it will never > be charged more than 28 hours. > > In general there isn't one. Other than disabling billing, so you can't use anyt

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 3:49:53 PM UTC+8, Tapir wrote: > > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:26:52 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >>>

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:26:52 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: >>> On Wedne

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:26:52 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: >>> On Wedne

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:26:52 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: >>> On Wedne

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:26:52 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: >>> On Wedne

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:18:50 AM UTC+8, Kristopher Giesing wrote: > > I have yet to talk to a GAE user who *didn't* misunderstand this part of > the docs on first read. It's one of the most common issues people have > when they first come to this group. > > - Kris > I'm an old user o

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 2:26:52 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: >>> On Wedne

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Kristopher Giesing
I have yet to talk to a GAE user who *didn't* misunderstand this part of the docs on first read. It's one of the most common issues people have when they first come to this group. - Kris https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/adminconsole/ >>> performancesettings#minimum >>> >> >> This d

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Barry Hunter
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Tapir wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:04:15 AM UTC+8, Rishi Arora wrote: It really doesn't mat

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Tapir
On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:44:35 AM UTC+8, barryhunter wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir >wrote: > >> >> >> On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:04:15 AM UTC+8, Rishi Arora wrote: >>> >>> It really doesn't matter it a second instance kicks in to process your >>> user-fa

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-19 Thread Barry Hunter
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Tapir wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:04:15 AM UTC+8, Rishi Arora wrote: >> >> It really doesn't matter it a second instance kicks in to process your >> user-facing requests. If your max_idle_instances is set to 1, then you're >> only paying for o

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2014-02-18 Thread Tapir
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:04:15 AM UTC+8, Rishi Arora wrote: > > It really doesn't matter it a second instance kicks in to process your > user-facing requests. If your max_idle_instances is set to 1, then you're > only paying for one idle instance at any given time. Really?! Any

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2011-09-13 Thread Rishi Arora
It was announced just 4 days ago, in response to developer concerns for small size apps. http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2011/09/few-adjustments-to-app-engines-upcoming.html On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM, dloomer wrote: > Interesting. I didn't know about the 28 instance hours, since under

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2011-09-13 Thread dloomer
Interesting. I didn't know about the 28 instance hours, since under the "Estimated Charges Under New Pricing" section of my billing history it still shows 24 free instance hours. Thanks for that info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App En

Re: [google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2011-09-13 Thread Rishi Arora
It really doesn't matter it a second instance kicks in to process your user-facing requests. If your max_idle_instances is set to 1, then you're only paying for one idle instance at any given time. Remember that "max_idle_instances=1" doesn't mean "max_instances=1". I do agree your concerns, and

[google-appengine] Min Pending Latency -- does it really do anything?

2011-09-13 Thread dloomer
I have a simple webcam app used by a maximum of maybe 3 people at any time, which also handles requests from a batch process initiated from my house which uploads a new image to my app every 15 seconds via HTTP call to my app's frontend. My goal is to get the app running on just a single fronte