[google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-01 Thread Cezary Wagner
What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and debugging - what is the best choice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goo

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-02 Thread Vinny P
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Cezary Wagner wrote: > What is the best tools to use dev_appserver.py with breakpoint and > debugging - what is the best choice. > Hi Cezary, You might want to read this forums discussion here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-appengine/ep5BWYKpQ

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-02 Thread Cezary Wagner
Thanks for hints - it is not helpful. Discussion is very old and there is not clear conclusion In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists - placing break points by editing code it is good for 100 lines programs or amateurs - sadomacho :) It looks that I can not use dart, endpoints because there is

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-02 Thread Cezary Wagner
I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but no Django templates support or Aptana!). It allow fast debugging with little slower coding. W dniu poniedziałek, 3 marca 2014 00:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Cezary Wagner napisał: > > Thanks for hints - it is not helpful. > > Discussion is ver

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-03 Thread D X
>From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than pdb. I disagree with your other comments; pdb is fine for professional use on huge projects. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:57:22 PM UTC-8, Cezary Wagner wrote: > > I found some combo like Pydev 3.3.3 + Eclipse 3.8.x (but

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-03 Thread timh
+1 I have worked on numersous projects with very large code bases on appengine, and I prefer pdb, and don't use Eclipse. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 5:53:06 AM UTC+8, D X wrote: > > From my experience, stepping through code is much slower on eclipse than > pdb. > > I disagree with your other comm

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-04 Thread Doug Anderson
I've been using PyCharm and am very pleased with it. I've also used JetBrains' WebStorm with node.js projects and was quite pleased with that as well. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 6:49:14 PM UTC-5, Cezary Wagner wrote: > > Thanks for hints - it is not helpful. > > Discussion is very old and there i

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-04 Thread PK
What version of pycharm do you use? My experience is that development slows down enough to avoid it. If there were an option to attach to a running instance when I really want to track something down I might use it once in a while. I am still looking for a solution that does not slow down the De

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-04 Thread Vinny P
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Cezary Wagner wrote: > In my opinion pdb is good for hobbists > PDB is perfectly fine for use with any size projects. The choice of a debugger is - of course - largely a personal preference, but I'd urge you to give pdb a second chance. - -Vin

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Let's finish this unpractical talk - your arguments are hell quality. With Eclipse I can see whole obejct with one click and hover - forward with one key. With PDB -> http://docs.python.org/2/library/pdb.html 1. I need put not need code to code -> import pdb; pdb.set_trace() 2. Get variable valu

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Pdb is hell - you waste time and money. In the most case simple debugger is enough and some assert use. W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 04:01:57 UTC+1 użytkownik timh napisał: > > +1 I have worked on numersous projects with very large code bases on > appengine, and I prefer pdb, and don't use Eclip

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Thanks for helpful hint I try to check it. W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 16:59:06 UTC+1 użytkownik Doug Anderson napisał: > > I've been using PyCharm and am very pleased with it. I've also used > JetBrains' WebStorm with node.js projects and was quite pleased with that > as well. > > On Sunday, M

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Debugging is for troubleshooting. You should never avoid unit testing, logging, assert, exception if you have debugger - since debugger is not testing tools. I am not avoiding too bu need fast debugger - mean spend less time on this. W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 17:16:35 UTC+1 użytkownik PK napi

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
I completly disagree that pdb is the best solution for any size project. I was explained in my first response and will not change mind since tested it. Pdb can be only the best for really hardcore debugging - I think that the most developers will never meet. It is waste of time and money to use

Re: [google-appengine] Python27 + new dev_appservery.py + debugging

2014-03-05 Thread Cezary Wagner
Why you prefer pdb - can you debug basic problems with one/two clicks + forward in pdb? W dniu wtorek, 4 marca 2014 04:01:57 UTC+1 użytkownik timh napisał: > > +1 I have worked on numersous projects with very large code bases on > appengine, and I prefer pdb, and don't use Eclipse. > > On Tuesd