[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-11-05 Thread Stefan Roesch
+1. Debugger still can't attach from Eclipse by setting breakpoints the way you used to with anything past 1.7.5. Anyone had any success? On Friday, August 9, 2013 4:07:30 PM UTC-7, Andrew Jessup wrote: > > Good news everyone! > > We just wanted to give you a quick update on PDB debugging suppo

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-08-09 Thread Andrew Jessup
Good news everyone! We just wanted to give you a quick update on PDB debugging support in the new dev_appserver. One of the key design goals of the new dev_appserver was to provide a more faithful emulation of how your application performs in production - including servicing each incoming r

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-22 Thread michael kariv
Debugging is still a problem. This link below was posted by Brian Quilan in a different thread https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCSaRiIWCLgbD3OwmuKsRoHHDfBffbROWyVWWL0ZXN4/edit#heading=h.fj44xnkhr0gr Here is where I am trying to solve the problem: 1. breakpoints DO WORK if you set them in dev_

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-22 Thread michael kariv
I have new server working for me on windows 7 32bit running in a VMWare virual machine, hosted by windows 7 64 bit. I use 1.7.7, not 1.7.6 If you can send me a synthetic test of your problem I'll try and run on my environment On Monday, April 22, 2013 6:20:18 PM UTC+3, David wrote: > > Looks lik

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-22 Thread Kaan Soral
there is a setting for id allocation, didn't check the actual setting right now, but those big ids recently started showing up, 'scattered' should be the default, you can change it to sequential or something like that, it might be worthwhile to check --help for this I see a lot of chatter aroun

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-22 Thread David
Looks like dev_appserver2.py does NOT work on 32 bit Windows. It crashes 32 bit python on the huge id() On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 7:57:02 PM UTC-5, Andrew Jessup wrote: > > In the 1.7.6 release of App Engine we’ve included a major upgrade to the > Development Server in the Python SDK, designed t

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-20 Thread timh
I posted this a few weeks ago, on how to debug 1.7.6 using Boa. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/google-appengine/Boa/google-appengine/-m00Qz4Vc7U Its not hard to do The same approach will no doubt work with winpdb, T On Sunday, April 21, 2013 5:12:42 AM UTC+8, Adam Bradle

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-20 Thread Adam Bradley
Has anyone come up with a way to debug? I obviously must be missing something because I find it hard to believe its no longer possible. For anyone who has no issues debugging, please share any advice you may have on how to setup local dev environments (since 1.7.6 that is). Thanks -- You recei

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-04-09 Thread payala
> >- We’ve cleaned up many command line flags and arguments > > Is there any place where we can see which arguments have been removed and workarounds? And, please, I can't believe debugging is not possible now... that is really really incredible, I will stay with 1.7.5 until you have found

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-24 Thread Amy Unruh
For those discussing whether or not to upgrade to 1.7.6— the legacy dev app server remains available in the Python SDK as 'old_dev_appserver.py'. So you can upgrade to 1.7.6 and still access it. -Amy On 25 March 2013 08:21, Mehul Kar wrote: > Should I wait on upgrading then? I use pdb.set_tra

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-24 Thread Mehul Kar
Should I wait on upgrading then? I use pdb.set_trace() pretty heavily. On Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:45:57 PM UTC-7, D X wrote: > > I used to use pdb.set_trace() because the debugger was so slow. > > It got monkeypatched to work in one of the more recent builds, but now > that there's multiple p

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-23 Thread D X
I used to use pdb.set_trace() because the debugger was so slow. It got monkeypatched to work in one of the more recent builds, but now that there's multiple processes running and stdout is closed, it doesn't work anymore. This is a huge problem. Part of the reason I like using App Engine was

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Adam Bradley
+1 on getting debugging working. I too use Aptana and now its no longer working, so I will be reverting back to 1.7.5. However, doing this also scares me because I do not want to be left behind and not stay up with the latest and greatest features you guys are putting together. I love GAE, but

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Bryce Cutt
Debugging is an absolute necessity. I use Eclipse PyDev (well, actually Aptana Studio) specifically because of the graphical debugger. I feel blind when I don't have a debugger; It's one of the most useful tools I know of for development. I'm sticking to 1.7.5 for this (and other) reasons. - Br

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Renzo Nuccitelli
+1 for debuging. I will keep the 1.7.5 version until Pycharm implements de debuger. Renzo On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:57:02 PM UTC-3, Andrew Jessup wrote: > > In the 1.7.6 release of App Engine we’ve included a major upgrade to the > Development Server in the Python SDK, designed to make dev

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Kaan Soral
Thanks for the suggestion, I will give it a try :) Actually, the async nature of the devappserver also makes the logs just a little hard to read, so I'm guessing the upcoming versions will come with many new features, for example there seems to be a new log sqlite file that is not yet used, If

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Alex Burgel
On Friday, March 22, 2013 12:35:37 PM UTC-4, Kaan Soral wrote: > No one forces anyone to use anything, you can always use previous versions > of SDK/Devappserver > > They've stated why It's currently not possible to debug with > devappserver2, as someone watching the development of devappserver2

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Kaan Soral
No one forces anyone to use anything, you can always use previous versions of SDK/Devappserver They've stated why It's currently not possible to debug with devappserver2, as someone watching the development of devappserver2 closely, I'm sure they will come up with a way to satisfy your debuggin

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-22 Thread Alex Burgel
On Thursday, March 21, 2013 12:50:20 AM UTC-4, Andrew Jessup wrote: > > If you'd like to take a look now, I would point you to this discussion > https://code.google.com/p/appengine-devappserver2-experiment/issues/detail?id=28and > in particular the document linked there that summarizes our propos

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-21 Thread Brian Quinlan
The Python 2.5 deprecation blog post is here: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/python-25-thanks-for-good-times.html Cheers, Brian On 22 March 2013 05:58, Darien Caldwell wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:57:02 PM UTC-7, Andrew Jessup wrote: >> >> Python 2.5 applications are

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-21 Thread Darien Caldwell
On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:57:02 PM UTC-7, Andrew Jessup wrote: > > Python 2.5 applications are no longer officially supported on the new > Development Server in line with our deprecation announcement (although they > may still be run) > > I must have missed that notification. I know 2.7 w

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-21 Thread Renzo Nuccitelli
Disagree, Debugging and hot patch is the killer feature. The problens with diferent behavior of local and production was easily with a test or homolog enviroment. On the other hand, using just log to fix and find bugs will increase too much the development time. Until it is not solved, I will

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-21 Thread PK
I tried many times to use a debugger. Originally I was using the wing IDE, now I am using pycharm. The main problem was that the debugger was just too slow so almost always I ended up using log messages. Don't get me wrong, fast debugging with "hot patching" would be great but i never felt i h

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-21 Thread Shay Erlichmen
I also notice that now I need to choose between debug and live code update (AKA hot patching). Debugging while code editing was one of killers features of the old server, please find a solution for this also. On Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:02:19 AM UTC+2, Shay Erlichmen wrote: > > Thanks for the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-21 Thread Shay Erlichmen
Thanks for the info Andrew, I figure that startup script was the way to go but wasn't sure on how. I think that you need to figure how to release a version that wouldn't required manual wireup for debugging on at least make it very easy to do. On Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:50:20 AM UTC+2, Andrew

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-20 Thread Andrew Jessup
Hi Shay, A key goal of the new development server was to provide a runtime environment closer to how your apps actually run in production, which is why a single app will now often run in multiple processes. This raises an interesting debugging challenge - how do we easily bind the right process a

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-20 Thread Shay Erlichmen
I worked with preview version of it and I was too embarrassed to ask, but now that this is official quick question: How do you debug code now? in the old dev server (under eclipse + pydev) all I have todo is set a breakpoint it seem now that this is no longer working (latest pydev + juno). I ima

[google-appengine] Re: Important for Python developers - Updates to the Development Server in 1.7.6

2013-03-20 Thread vivpuri
I have opened an issue - https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=9007 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-appengine+u