RE: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

On Behalf Of mike hershey Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:07 AM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE Woops, better take down those pictures! Your violatin

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

Woops, better take down those pictures! Your violating adsense's ToS. Your not allowed to share CPM with anyone. Just a heads up, I would hate to see your adsense account disabled -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view th

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

é Pankraz > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:21 PM > To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 > MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE > > the main problem with heroku seems to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

HI John, On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:58 AM, John wrote: > When it comes to writes I call it the "times two phenomenon". I have NO > IDEA why you can't do anything that is not 2 writes??? I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for but the translation of high-level datastore operations into

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

John, by default MemcacheServiceException should not be thrown and take down anyone's site. It's a bug (that has affected my site in the past too). I've filed a bug report here: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6236 On Dec 15, 7:58 am, John wrote: > When it comes to writ

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

Goog only very recently switched to new pricing and they need to see how it sells It is probably will not sell good and significant number of people will leave So after they figure it out they'll make it cheaper, they'll have to It will probably take at least half year for them to figure current p

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE If you have a polynomial-time implementation of optimal traveling salesman, I'll buy that for $500k. Jeff On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Brandon W

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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:55 AM, mike hershey wrote: I think most people who use app engine prefer it because you don't have to > understand how everything works. I get a black box servlet environment, > datastore, and whatever else a site typically needs. I don't have to waste > time knowing how

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

o:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Wirtz > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:53 PM > To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a > 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE

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ine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:33 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a

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Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:33 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Brandon Wirtz wro

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > GAE FORCES you to think about your code. But it allows you to forget about > everything else. Brandon, I humbly suggest you just haven't hit an edge case yet. There are plenty of indexing problems which GAE simply doesn't offer a solution to

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day, December 14, 2011 3:56 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE I think you've got that backwards. The other cloud services referenced (amazon/ra

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

I think you've got that backwards. The other cloud services referenced (amazon/rackspace) are IaaS, and allow you to host your own operating system that you have complete control over. App engine is the service with a layer between the data and the application. You can't control how app engine

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

oups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > I have a spatial Index running on GAE using Calculated Tessellations > as indexed va

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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > I have a spatial Index running on GAE using Calculated Tessellations as > indexed values.  Based on a talk given by someone at Google About How they > optimized map searches for doing "with in radius" searches. Yeah yeah yeah, we can (and of

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. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Schnitzer Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:11 PM To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote: > But if you are building Data Intense apps you can’t touch it on price. Only if you can use the indexes provided. If you need a slightly different index (say, a spatial index), you're forced to maintain it in a third-party cloud. This was o

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

One last thing that is incredibly evil: paying customers do have an SLA, BUT if the SLA is not met its your responsibility to complain to Google to get credit towards your next month bill, and they don't have a metric of monthly uptime anywhere. To be able to claim against the SLA, I have to ke

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE the main problem with heroku seems to be that they start with a minimum of 200$ a month for the database - not very open source friendly?! it pays off if you use 1 TB data. Maybe I miss cheaper options

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

the main problem with heroku seems to be that they start with a minimum of 200$ a month for the database - not very open source friendly?! it pays off if you use 1 TB data. Maybe I miss cheaper options there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

When it comes to writes I call it the "times two phenomenon". I have NO IDEA why you can't do anything that is not 2 writes??? e.g. If you have a very simple Entity with 5 properties (none set to the NON default status of Unindexed) and you save it, it is 12 writes. Key

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

You can get 8GB RAM for less than $40 now. Google probably pays $20. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to goog

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

Looking at Heroku, they offer instance for $.05 with 512mb RAM. Dont see any wording asking for minimum hours of commitment. Besides that, this minimum hours of commitment is such a pain. As i discovered, you cannot increase/decrease hours at will. Any changes you make today, it does not come into

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

I had hoped that AppEngine team will say - all of you guys are on F2 instances that cost $.08. I guess i was naive. So, all of us now by default end up on these crappy instances that cannot run your code, and pretty soon will be forced to upgrade to $.16 instances. Its very similar to a worthless c

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

Saving your hard earned $$s doesnt equate to cheapskates. I just want worth of my $$s that i earned after hours of toiling in front of a screen. Sometimes 16 hours per day. On Dec 14, 12:38 pm, Joshua Smith wrote: > No, new Mac buyers get what the kid at the store tells them to get, and never >

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

No, new Mac buyers get what the kid at the store tells them to get, and never open their mac, or buy memory from ebay. If they were cheapskates, they'd be buying a PC that looks like a Mac on the outside, and costs a ton less. On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:26 PM, Vivek Puri wrote: > Great points Jeff

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

I'm with you, this absolutely nuts. I got on board before all this new pricing stuff, round 1 new pricing just barely didn't scare me away, but this definitely did. I'm getting off app engine ASAP. So much about app engine seems like a scam. $1/million database writes, BUT a write is AT LEAST 2

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On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Vivek Puri wrote: > Great points Jeff. Double pricing for double CPU and memory is very > similar to Mac pricing on memory. So, what do new Mac buyers do? They > just get the lowest memory possible and get the cheapest memory deal > from ebay. Unfortunately, we can

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

Great points Jeff. Double pricing for double CPU and memory is very similar to Mac pricing on memory. So, what do new Mac buyers do? They just get the lowest memory possible and get the cheapest memory deal from ebay. Unfortunately, we cannot do that here. On Dec 14, 10:36 am, Jeff Schnitzer wrot

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

Yeah, more RAM is linearly more costlier, which seems unfair and un-competitive. It does make me wonder though, how hard does Google (and others like linode) try to actually make all that RAM available to you. In other words, if you bought an instance with 4G RAM, do they absolutely guarantee you

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

exactly jeff, well put. On Dec 14, 10:36 am, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > I think there is a legitimate gripe here which is that large-memory > instances are unreasonably expensive. > > There's some significant value-add for GAE's "whole package" - > automatic scaling, memcache, edge caching, deployme

[google-appengine] Re: Isn't .08/hr 1.92/day $59.52/month for a 600 MHZ CPU instance with 128 MB memory a LITTLE EXPENSIVE

I've seen it mentioned here before that Google's RAM is made with solid gold. Not sure if it's true or not... On Dec 14, 6:50 am, John wrote: > Just started thinking about this... but now that we are basically paying > for all the datastore reads/writes, and bandwidth separately... > > Isn't pay