[google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Just got the email saying issue "We need to be able to set "Max-Idle-Instance" to 0" http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=5764 wont be fixed. In that case there is a problem with the scheduler not shutting down idle instances. My app your-pond, has a single instance t

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Barry Hunter
>From what Jon said in another thread ("min instace time is 24 hours?"), instances may be left hanging around (as they happen to be on a fortuitous machine) But you are not changed for these. ie its the lines on the graphs that actully affect billing (see Jons equations in the same thread) ... i.

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Barry Thanks for pointing out that thread. I am still not 100% convinced from what Jon said is the whole picture He did say that they may not kill of idle instances and the graph shows that. But he also says that max-idle-instances=1 equates to 24 billable hours. So I am inclined to conc

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Dani Shaulov
> But he also says that max-idle-instances=1 equates to 24 billable hours. > He did not say that. He clearly said that an instance will not be billed after 15 mins of inactivity. You will get 24 billable hours if you ping(make a request) the system at a rate of at least 1 time every 15 minuet

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Dani Shaulov
And, your total-instance-rate is the blue line in the graph. As you can see it is 0 most of the time not 1. So in the formula you put 0 for most of the idle hours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To view this discussion on

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Tim Hoffman
Ok, where he said that was in the context of someone pinging every minute rather than as a general statement. It would be good if the instances view showed billable instance hours against each instance. I might have to wait more than 3 days to see the billing, I am currently 4 days behind on

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Jon McAlister
Hi Tim, As Dani explained, if there are no instances that have received a request in the last 15 minutes, then the billable-instances-rate for that time period is indeed 0. So, in your last example, the billable-instances for the day would be 4. I'm happy to walk through other scenarios if you'd l

Re: [google-appengine] Wontfix on need max-idle instances 0, but my single idle instance won't go away.

2011-09-07 Thread Tim Hoffman
Hi Jon Thanks for the update. Faster billing will help a lot. I don't envy the person who gets to write up all these billing behaviours in a clean concise fashion. A job for an good technical writer. See ya T -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Go