[GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault

2009-01-28 Thread damodar prasad
in that respect). Anyway, >> so there it is: a lucrative business for patriarchal vigilantes, the media >> and the police... >> Luisa >> >> >> -------------- >> *From:* aryakrishnan ramakrishnan >> *To:* greenyouth@googlegroups.com >>

[GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault

2009-01-28 Thread damodar prasad
- > *From:* aryakrishnan ramakrishnan > *To:* greenyouth@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 7:24:42 > > *Subject:* [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault > > > From Saleem's mail and in Neelan's blog blurb in

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2009-01-28 Thread Luisa Steur
radwaj reshma >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Why seek another name when SreeramSena itself is capable of invoking >>>>> 'terror' in all those who are not placed in advantageous locations ( by >>>>> name >>>>&g

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2009-01-28 Thread salimtk
heir minds are rotten." Bedpal Yadav, Shashikant's father, says, >> "Now they'll start maligning our boys, but what about the character of Amit >> Pawar?" As Bedpal's voice gets louder, neighbours and relatives gather, some >> saying that Pawar and t

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2009-01-28 Thread damodar prasad
gt;>> >>> >>>> >>> We have to wake up from our sleep otherwise, these fools will kill >>>> us in >>>> >>> our sleep... >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM, damodar prasad < &g

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2009-01-28 Thread Gouri Patwardhan
ls the police *"bade logon ke rakhwale" > * (protectors of big lords). "More than 40 village children went missing > in Nithari, and they didn't register one FIR," he points out, "But one > person from the upper class dies, and they fall over themselves trying to &g

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2009-01-28 Thread Anil M
>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Seen from a Secular, Modern and Liberal perspectives, except for >>> some >>> >>>> subtleties in practice, there is no much of a difference between >>> Fascism ( >>&

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2009-01-28 Thread S sanjeev
e: From: damodar prasad Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 2:09 PM If Karntaka was not a news at at all, how did the blogger Neelan got all the links. These "upper class" kind of a

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2009-01-28 Thread damodar prasad
gt;> >>>> of one by another does not change the meaning. >> >>>> >> >>>> But if you find these modern values as a problem field, then of >> course >> >>>> the differences have to be accounted. >> >>>> >> >>>> As sanjeev said, in th

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2009-01-27 Thread salimtk
that Manglore > has > >>>> witnessed. > >>>> > >>>> Talibanism does not evoke any sympathies, I suppose!! > >>>> > >>>> d.Prasad > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:12 PM, bharadwaj reshma

[GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault

2009-01-27 Thread Anil M
gt; >>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:12 PM, bharadwaj reshma > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Why seek another name when SreeramSena itself is capable of invoking > >>>> 'terror' in all those who are not placed in advantageous loca

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2009-01-27 Thread aryakrishnan ramakrishnan
;>>>> >>>>> Why seek another name when SreeramSena itself is capable of invoking >>>>> 'terror' in all those who are not placed in advantageous locations ( by >>>>> name >>>>> or privileges) ? >>>>

[GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault

2009-01-27 Thread Anivar Aravind
;> >>>> Perhaps, Sreeramsena or Sangh Parivar doesn't appear 'pre--modern" >>>> enough >>>> compared to the nonsecular/pre-modern appeal of 'Taliban' in secular >>>> commonsense. >>>> >>>> It tells more ab

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2009-01-27 Thread salimtk
#x27; in all those who are not placed in advantageous locations ( by name >>> or privileges) ? >>> >>> Perhaps, Sreeramsena or Sangh Parivar doesn't appear 'pre--modern" enough >>> compared to the nonsecular/pre-modern appeal of 'Taliban'

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2009-01-27 Thread Joseph Saluting NSG Commandos......
privileges) ? >> >> Perhaps, Sreeramsena or Sangh Parivar doesn't appear 'pre--modern" enough >> compared to the nonsecular/pre-modern appeal of 'Taliban' in secular >> commonsense. >> >> It tells more about those who speak/ listen than th

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2009-01-27 Thread damodar prasad
doesn't appear 'pre--modern" enough > compared to the nonsecular/pre-modern appeal of 'Taliban' in secular > commonsense. > > It tells more about those who speak/ listen than the incident itself. > > > > > --- On Tue, 27/1/09, S sanjeev wrote: &g

[GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault

2009-01-27 Thread bharadwaj reshma
modern appeal of 'Taliban' in secular commonsense. It tells more about those who speak/ listen than the incident itself. --- On Tue, 27/1/09, S sanjeev wrote: > From: S sanjeev > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault > To: greenyouth@googlegroups

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2009-01-27 Thread S sanjeev
was the best model available at the time, post-Babri Masjid? --- On Tue, 27/1/09, Gladson Dungdung wrote: From: Gladson Dungdung Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 5:10 PM Dear Anil,   There are many

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2009-01-27 Thread S sanjeev
was the best model available at the time, post-Babri Masjid? --- On Tue, 27/1/09, Gladson Dungdung wrote: From: Gladson Dungdung Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 5:10 PM Dear Anil,   There are many

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2009-01-27 Thread salimtk
thats the safe middle class way. think universally and NEVER act locally. if you act locally, make sure you've the support of powerful political parties or state. how easy to support palastine!! will anybody discuss chitralekha at their middle class dinining table? but, ur liberal progressive st

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2009-01-27 Thread Anil M
Dear Gladson I am not sure how this "model" or models going to help resist/analyze such attacks..This may only help us prove our secular credentials "see Sreeramsena and Taliban are same..we oppose both !" On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:23 PM, NUAIMAN wrote: > > Dear, > Should we call what Sreera

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2009-01-27 Thread aryakrishnan ramakrishnan
Let me put it like this We live with people who read books by writers who opposed Nazi regime, stalinist Russia and many others who opposed cruel systems and even took the risk of getting prisoned. It is often seen in those malayalam literary magazines about books and people who were anti establi

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2009-01-27 Thread NUAIMAN
Dear, Should we call what Sreerama sena has done to the pub going girls in Mangalore as Talibanism? Why cant we brand it as Sangparivarism or some other Indianism for that matter. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Gladson Dungdung wrote: > Dear Anil, > > There are many models but at the moment th

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2009-01-27 Thread aryakrishnan ramakrishnan
A kerala model can be 'janadhipatya mahila associationisation'. Their Chanakamthali was a famous purification of 2008. Aryan On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Gladson Dungdung wrote: > Dear Anil, > > There are many models but at the moment the Taliban is the best. > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at

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2009-01-27 Thread Gladson Dungdung
Dear Anil, There are many models but at the moment the Taliban is the best. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Anil M wrote: > Dear Gladson > Only one model exists? > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Gladson Dungdung < > gladsonhrig...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Mr. Anil, >> >> Surely, I

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2009-01-27 Thread Anil M
Dear Gladson Only one model exists? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Gladson Dungdung wrote: > Dear Mr. Anil, > > Surely, It is Talibanization, as now the Taliban is the model for > fundamentalization of the society in the name of religion. > > Thanks > Gladson > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:52

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2009-01-27 Thread Gladson Dungdung
Dear Mr. Anil, Surely, It is Talibanization, as now the Taliban is the model for fundamentalization of the society in the name of religion. Thanks Gladson On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Anil M wrote: > "one can not jump after hearing this because the whole process of > Talibanization of the

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2009-01-27 Thread Anil M
"one can not jump after hearing this because the whole process of Talibanization of the state is backed by the government of Karnataka." Is it necessary to use "Talibanization" to describe this kind of vandalism?? On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, damodar prasad wrote: > Another dimension of the

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2009-01-27 Thread damodar prasad
Another dimension of the social talibanizing process is the attack of Indepedent Media. The recent arrest of BV Seetharam the editor of Karavali Ale shows how the BJP Govt in connivance with Bajrang Dal is effecting this process. Accroding to reports, Seetharam has been consistently reporting on t

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2009-01-27 Thread Gladson Dungdung
Dear All, The prompt action of the law enforcement agency is appreciable but obviously, one can not jump after hearing this because the whole process of Talibanization of the state is backed by the government of Karnataka. This kind of incident will take place in every walk of life unless the ideo