Re: .Xr mdoc(7) from groff_mdoc(7)?

2020-06-25 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
I am off-topic. Ingo Schwarze wrote in <20200625214812.gf90...@athene.usta.de>: |given that two authoritative manual pages for the mdoc language |exist that describe exactly the same language, but in a somewhat ... | The manual page groff_mdoc(7): https://man.voidlinux.org/groff_mdoc |

.Xr mdoc(7) from groff_mdoc(7)?

2020-06-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, given that two authoritative manual pages for the mdoc language exist that describe exactly the same language, but in a somewhat different style, an anonymous coward calling himself "B 9" just suggested in passing in a remark in a bugtracking ticket that it might occasionally help users if

[bug #58653] Please add back in the mdoc(7) manual

2020-06-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Follow-up Comment #7, bug #58653 (project groff): > I had thought you were linking to the mdoc documentation that comes with BSD. mandoc is portable software. It is included and used by default in these systems (chronological order by first official use): OpenBSD, NetBSD, Illumos, Void Linux,

[bug #58653] Please add back in the mdoc(7) manual

2020-06-25 Thread INVALID.NOREPLY
Follow-up Comment #6, bug #58653 (project groff): [comment #5 comment #5:] > > > This mandoc mdoc(7) you are speaking of, > > is it part of groff? I don't see it. > > No it isn't. > I already posted the hyperlink: https://man.openbsd.org/mdoc.7 > It is part of mandoc. Please pardon my

[bug #58653] Please add back in the mdoc(7) manual

2020-06-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Follow-up Comment #5, bug #58653 (project groff): > Good documentation lets people know right away what the > cost of learning will be and what the benefits are. Right, that's usually the first one to three sentences in a manual page. No need for a separate document. In groff_mdoc(7), the

[bug #58653] Please add back in the mdoc(7) manual

2020-06-25 Thread INVALID.NOREPLY
Follow-up Comment #4, bug #58653 (project groff): [comment #3 comment #3:] > You say "but beginners need something simpler". I contest that. It's not because i'm an expert on mdoc(7). When learning a completely new language totally from scratch, i typically go for the formal standard / formal

[bug #58653] Please add back in the mdoc(7) manual

2020-06-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Follow-up Comment #3, bug #58653 (project groff): You say "i wish you had mentioned this before". Granted, it would have been helpful, and i wanted to. But there isn't time to answer all questions i could usefully respond to, so it fell through the cracks. I estimate roughly 80% fall through

[bug #58653] Please add back in the mdoc(7) manual

2020-06-25 Thread INVALID.NOREPLY
Follow-up Comment #2, bug #58653 (project groff): [comment #1 comment #1:] > I *VERY* strongly oppose this idea. Thank you, Ingo, although I do wish you had mentioned this on the mailing list when I first brought it up or at the point when someone else suggested that the groff project needs to