Hi everyone,
I thought some of you might be interested in some work I did recently.
I came up with an idea I call elastic tabstops which I think goes some
way towards solving the problems we programmers have with indenting
and aligning code, and I've implemented this in GTK. At the moment
this exi
Wow, that's such a good idea; the implementation seems to solve the
problems I've always had with tabs/spaces/alignment.
Is the patch for GtkSourceView, or just gedit? If you want to get it
into "GTK", then it should probably be aimed at GtkSourceView. (Which is
used by both gedit and Anjuta.)
We
You are truly a legend. I'm all for making things easier for those who
prefer to use proportional fonts. I love unicode! ℃…
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 23:39 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I thought some of you might be interested in some work I did recently.
> I came up with an idea I
Thanks Philip,
The patch is for gedit. Gedit wraps GtkSourceViewClass to make it's
own GeditViewClass, which is what I've extended in this patch, so it
should be pretty straight forward to create a new class which just
subclasses GtkSourceView, implements the elastic tabstop functionality
and noth
Thanks Alex,
The proportional font stuff is really just a nice side effect - this
idea has all sorts of nice implications. Off the top of my head,
imagine a program like ls that outputs a list of directories and
files. At the moment ls needs to be aware of the number of columns of
the console to w
Hi again, Nick
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:46 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> Thanks Alex,
>
> The proportional font stuff is really just a nice side effect - this
> idea has all sorts of nice implications. Off the top of my head,
> imagine a program like ls that outputs a list of directories and
>
On 29/08/2007, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Nick
>
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:46 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> Thanks Alex,
>
> The proportional font stuff is really just a nice side effect - this
> idea has all sorts of nice implications. Off the top of my head,
> imagin
Personally I think this is a terrible idea because it breaks
compatibility with other editors. If each editor interprets tabs in its
own way, then when you save a file from one editor and open in another
one it will appear all wrong.
And how will this look e.g. to Python, which generally doesn't
On 29/08/2007, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Qua, 2007-08-29 at 07:42 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> > On 29/08/2007, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi again, Nick
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:46 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> > > Thanks Ale
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 07:42 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> Does anyone know the process for getting the elastic tabstop
> functionality into the official GTK branch?
You should open a bug against GTK on GNOME Bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=gtk%2B
Attach a patch agains
I really like this concept. I haven't tried it myself yet, but it
seems to work really well. I don't think we should immediately include
it in gtk though, because it's not "proven" enough yet. If it turns
out to be completely useless in the end, then it will only be bloat to
gtk, which cannot be re
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:06 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> And how will this look e.g. to Python, which generally doesn't even like
> tabs? Variable width tabs will likely cause havoc in Python programs...
As Nick said, Python is just fine with tabs!
> Now, if you did the exact same
On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 07:42 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> > How is this coming along? Have you opened bugzilla issues on this yet? I
> > really want to start using this!
>
> I've been busy recently with other stuff, so at the moment I'm still
> hacking my gedit patch to turn it into a plugin. P
On 29/08/2007, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 12:06 +0100, Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro wrote:
> And how will this look e.g. to Python, which generally doesn't even like
> tabs? Variable width tabs will likely cause havoc in Python programs...
>
> As Nick said, Pyt
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:38:36PM +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
>
> The problem is that indenting is already broken regardless of whether
> you use tabs or spaces. Tabs are broken because if you don't get the
> size right things won't line up ("appear all wrong"), and spaces are
> broken because y
Alex Jones wrote:
> I really can't wait to get this functionality, it finally puts an end to
> all of the nonsense over how many spaces there should be in a tab!
The option to avoid tabs has been here since ever.
Did it put an end to the tab size nonsense?
What makes you think this option will?
On 29/08/2007, David Nečas (Yeti) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:38:36PM +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that indenting is already broken regardless of whether
> > you use tabs or spaces. Tabs are broken because if you don't get the
> > size right things
On 29/08/2007, David Nečas (Yeti) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Jones wrote:
> > I really can't wait to get this functionality, it finally puts an end to
> > all of the nonsense over how many spaces there should be in a tab!
>
> The option to avoid tabs has been here since ever.
> Did it put a
2007/8/29, Nick Gravgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip]
> But wouldn't it be nice to have the choice over how big your
> indentation is without forcing it on anyone else?
OTOH you are forcing anyone wishing to look at your code to have a
suitable viewer. If you think about how source code is viewed
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 07:11:35PM +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> On 29/08/2007, David Nečas (Yeti) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Alex Jones wrote:
> > > I really can't wait to get this functionality, it finally puts an end to
> > > all of the nonsense over how many spaces there should be in a ta
On 30/08/2007, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2007/8/29, Nick Gravgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [snip]
> > But wouldn't it be nice to have the choice over how big your
> > indentation is without forcing it on anyone else?
>
> OTOH you are forcing anyone wishing to look at your code to ha
I don't think there is much point in arguing whether this might or
might not work. He said he already implemented it, so the best thing
to do is just give it a try. If it turns out to work well, very good,
if not, it's a pity, but nothing is lost by it. Discarding any idea
upfront before even tryin
2007/8/30, Nick Gravgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 30/08/2007, Kalle Vahlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 2007/8/29, Nick Gravgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > [snip]
> > > But wouldn't it be nice to have the choice over how big your
> > > indentation is without forcing it on anyone else?
> >
> > O
Hi Alex, everyone
On 29/08/2007, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi again, Nick
>
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 10:46 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> Thanks Alex,
>
> The proportional font stuff is really just a nice side effect - this
> idea has all sorts of nice implications. Off the top o
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 08:14 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> I thought I'd drop you a mail to tell you that I've turned the gedit
> patch into a proper plugin and made the following fixes:
>
> * Other chars than just \n can now terminate paragraphs
> * Italic and bold characters are now handled pro
On 19/09/2007, Alex Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 08:14 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> > I thought I'd drop you a mail to tell you that I've turned the gedit patch
> > into a proper plugin and made the following fixes:
> >
> > * Other chars than just \n can now terminate
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 08:14 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/#gedit
Nick, does
"convert files that use spaces for alignment"
mean something along the lines of
"when reading a file that uses spaces for alignment,
algo
On 24/09/2007, Andrew Cowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 08:14 +0200, Nick Gravgaard wrote:
> > http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/#gedit
>
> Nick, does
>
> "convert files that use spaces for alignment"
>
> mean something along the lines of
>
> "when read
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