Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-27 Thread Pjotr Prins
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 02:14:18PM +0100, zimoun wrote: > Let's pick an example: the sources.json file ingested by Software > Heritage. Basically, Guix does that when building its website and the > relevant Scheme code is here: > > >

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-27 Thread zimoun
Hey, On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 11:36, Pjotr Prins wrote: > Quite a few of us here have used and developed against Nix in the past > and Nix certainly is a great work and the original inspiration of GNU > Guix (and doing things better). When Ludo introduced Guix at FOSDEM in > 2014, however, I was c

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-27 Thread Pjotr Prins
Quite a few of us here have used and developed against Nix in the past and Nix certainly is a great work and the original inspiration of GNU Guix (and doing things better). When Ludo introduced Guix at FOSDEM in 2014, however, I was convinced to change my ways on the spot - after using Nix (from th

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Ludovic Courtès
Hi, Taylan Kammer skribis: > This seems to confirm my thought that Guix is actually at a better > place with things like guix deploy, guix pack, etc. compared to Nix, > where things are more scattered. I suppose it's thanks to the > clean-slate development of Guix... or the developers are just

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Ricardo Wurmus
Taylan Kammer writes: > TL;DR: sell Guix (over Nix) to someone who doesn't care about GNU or > Scheme? I’ve previously compared Guix and Nix for the crowd at Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23529932 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19809366 It’s not much of a sales pitc

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Yasuaki Kudo
Hi! I was in almost the situation a few months ago and I spent a few weeks trying both NixOS and Guix. To me, Nix felt more like a 'minimum viable product' for a startup company - it works well but seems to suffer from its own success - practicality is given priority over engineering cleanline

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread zimoun
Dear, On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 13:42, Taylan Kammer wrote: > > On 26.10.2020 11:41, zimoun wrote: > I think pack -f docker is going to be the "killer feature" in this case. > > Well, the following doesn't seem so complicated either actually: > >https://nix.dev/tutorials/building-and-running-do

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Taylan Kammer
On 26.10.2020 12:44, Pierre Neidhardt wrote: zimoun writes: For reference, Pierre started this [1] and I do not remember the end of the story. This is the end of the story ;) https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-matters/index.html But all these points are valid for Nix. For a Guix presentation to in

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Taylan Kammer
On 26.10.2020 11:41, zimoun wrote: The main pitfall is not the Dockerfile per se but the classical distribution it often implies. Well, this video is explaining better than my words. :-) https://archive.fosdem.org/2019/schedule/event/gnu_guix_new_approach_to_software_distribution Great video!

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Pierre Neidhardt
zimoun writes: > For reference, Pierre started this [1] and I do not remember the end > of the story. This is the end of the story ;) https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-matters/index.html But all these points are valid for Nix. For a Guix presentation to includes a (shallow) comparison to Nix, see ht

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Taylan Kammer
On 26.10.2020 10:29, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Taylan Kammer writes: Hi Taylan, Personally I'm a GNU-lover and a Scheme-lover so it's obvious why I would choose Guix over Nix. :-) TL;DR: sell Guix (over Nix) to someone who doesn't care about GNU or Scheme? Have you seen Daniel Schaefer's

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread zimoun
Hi Taylan. On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 08:42, Taylan Kammer wrote: > However, currently at my workplace I'm trying to pitch Nix/Guix as a > better way of generating Docker container images, opposed to the impure > Dockerfile way of doing it. The pitch really depends on the background of your workpla

Re: Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Taylan Kammer writes: Hi Taylan, > Personally I'm a GNU-lover and a Scheme-lover so it's obvious why I > would choose Guix over Nix. :-) > TL;DR: sell Guix (over Nix) to someone who doesn't care about GNU or > Scheme? Have you seen Daniel Schaefer's Peering into the Land of Parentheses? h

Advantages over Nix?

2020-10-26 Thread Taylan Kammer
Hi Guixers, Personally I'm a GNU-lover and a Scheme-lover so it's obvious why I would choose Guix over Nix. However, currently at my workplace I'm trying to pitch Nix/Guix as a better way of generating Docker container images, opposed to the impure Dockerfile way of doing it. (I've never really