Hi Étienne,
On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 10:58, "Etienne B. Roesch"
wrote:
> The way I use the doc, is by loading the latest manual in the browser as
> one page, and use the search function of the browser. That helps but it
> also implies I know what I am looking for, and I can fill in the gaps, eg
>
Hi,
On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 06:45, Distopico wrote:
> - Forum: A good place for beginner an non-technical user (I guess all
> Guix user require some technical knowledge), also a good place for
> create history and user documentation/solutions.
> - Mailing List: For contributors, developers, and
Hi,
On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 19:22, Sarthak Shah wrote:
> I think we should seriously consider having a user forum similar to
> Debian's User Forum or Nixos' Discourse.
Well, I shared my opinion in the other thread:
A Forum for Guix Users
from Distopico
Tue, 18 Jul 2023
Yes, these are good points: the technicality required for dev work may
actually deter newcomers, and therefore perhaps a higher-level online forum
for beginners to ask questions could lower the barrier to entry. I am
revising my vote in favour of the forum :)
Etienne
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:56
Ahmed Khanzada writes:
> I like this forum idea.
>
> In fact, I really think a forum / presence for GNU more generally would
> be excellent.
>
> Yes, you can find dedicated spaces for Emacs, Guix, etc, and there is
> #gnu on Libera and some mailing lists.
>
> But I think we are sorely missing a
I like this forum idea.
In fact, I really think a forum / presence for GNU more generally would
be excellent.
Yes, you can find dedicated spaces for Emacs, Guix, etc, and there is
#gnu on Libera and some mailing lists.
But I think we are sorely missing a central point where users can go and
see
Sarthak Shah writes:
> The reason why I'm suggesting a move away from mailing lists is that it is a
> lot easier to follow threads on forums.
> You have all the replies on the same page, compared to clicking on the link
> of each reply, realizing it doesn't have the answer, clicking
> another
Nguyễn Gia Phong via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution."
writes:
> On 2023-07-13 at 16:40+02:00, Andrea Rossi wrote:
>> However, I do wonder whether the features in Mailman 3,
>> namely Postorius and HyperKitty, might make it easier for new users
>> to get started withou
On 2023-07-18 at 03:52+02:00, Wilko Meyer wrote:
> I'm not sure wether having a web-based user forum solves this issue
> as it would be yet another place to look up a potential solution in.
> I'd also argue that a web-based forum doesn't provide anything mailing
> lists can't when it comes to the a
Hi Sarthak,
Sarthak Shah writes:
> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their
> problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as
> they aren't very easy to navigate compared to forum threads.
I'm not sure wether having a web-based user forum solves this issue as
it
> Like I've mentioned on fedi before, advocates of Lispy languages tend to
> talk a lot about what's possible with the language, but the truth is
> that the actual tooling that matters simply isn't very good, and having
> an S-expression based syntax doesn't magically make writing the kinds of
> re
Hi!
Being somewhat of a beginner myself, or at least a newcomer, I can relate
to the steep learning curve. I also attempted the supervision of
psychology students on a guix hackathon (as an experiment) not too long
ago: utter beginners and we focused on reviewing the documentation, with
the idea
Pjotr Prins writes:
> If the xapian indexer also analysed mailing list output (through
> publicinbox, for example) and maybe debbugs and IRC logs it would be
> complete.
It does index the IRC logs, but there’s a bug in the deployment:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/maintenance.g
Pjotr Prins writes:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 02:10:49PM -0700, Felix Lechner via Development of
> GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. wrote:
...
>> 1. Our community is small, and possibly shrinking.
>
> I doubt that is true in absolute terms. You should see where we were
> 10 years ago
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 02:10:49PM -0700, Felix Lechner via Development of GNU
Guix and the GNU System distribution. wrote:
> Hi Robby and Sarthak,
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 7:17 AM Robby Zambito wrote:
> >
> > I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation
> > relating
Le 15 juillet 2023 23:00:43 GMT+02:00, MSavoritias a
écrit :
>
>Attila Lendvai writes:
>
>>> Regarding the forum I dont think any forum would have much traction.
>>> I agree that either matrix or xmpp could be considered instead for that
>>> purpose.
>>> As a more approachable chat mechanism
Attila Lendvai writes:
>> Regarding the forum I dont think any forum would have much traction.
>> I agree that either matrix or xmpp could be considered instead for that
>> purpose.
>> As a more approachable chat mechanism compared to IRC.
>
>
> it's an essential role of a forum that latecomers
> > > I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation
> > > relating to the mailing lists and IRC logs, rather than fragmenting the
> > > places that someone should look for answers. Maybe a new / additional
> > > frontend that is more approachable for new users would also be
> Regarding the forum I dont think any forum would have much traction.
> I agree that either matrix or xmpp could be considered instead for that
> purpose.
> As a more approachable chat mechanism compared to IRC.
it's an essential role of a forum that latecomers find the earlier
questions/discus
> I'm technically one of the administrators of forums.debian.net and
> would not recommend web-based "forums" to projects that do not have
> them. They are hard to search and even harder to police. Also, the
> software tends to be based on dated technologies. There are better
> ways to help people
On 2023-07-15 at 02:47+05:30, Sarthak Shah wrote:
> The reason why I'm suggesting a move away from mailing lists
> is that it is a lot easier to follow threads on forums.
>
> You have all the replies on the same page, compared to clicking
> on the link of each reply, realizing it doesn't have the a
Csepp writes:
> Robby Zambito writes:
>
>> Hi Sarthak,
>>
>>> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their
>>> problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very
>>> easy to navigate compared to forum threads.
>>
>> I personally think that it would be wi
Hi Sarthak,
On 13/07/23 15:52, Sarthak Shah wrote:
[...]
Software suggestions as well as thoughts on this idea would be greatly
appreciated!
Personally, I hate web-based forums as much as I love mailing lists -
especially when used with netiquette. It's such an ingrained prejudice
that I th
Hi!
I saw this thread mentioned in #guix.
Csepp 写道:
We could also bridge IRC to Matrix
This will happen if EMS (representing ‘Matrix’ here) fixes the
mysterious errors that are currently plaguing channels trying to
migrate from portalled⁰ to plumbed⁰ rooms.
Kind regards,
T G-R
[0]: http
On 7/13/23 11:21, Csepp wrote:
Robby Zambito writes:
Hi Sarthak,
As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their problems
in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very
easy to navigate compared to forum threads.
I personally think that it would be wiser to
> > The reason why I'm suggesting a move away from mailing lists is that it is
> > a lot easier to follow threads on forums.
>
> Have you thought about maybe using Debbugs to compartmentalize the
> discussions of some topics?
Besides debbugs, I recall one other interesting example of integrati
HI Sarthak,
On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 2:18 PM Sarthak Shah wrote:
>
> The reason why I'm suggesting a move away from mailing lists is that it is a
> lot easier to follow threads on forums.
Have you thought about maybe using Debbugs to compartmentalize the
discussions of some topics?
I think that
Hey Andy,
That's definitely not the case.
I've used that method of search with other GNU/Linux distribution forums,
and it has always worked.
Have you had that issue before?
The reason why I'm suggesting a move away from mailing lists is that it is
a lot easier to follow threads on forums.
You hav
Hi Robby and Sarthak,
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 7:17 AM Robby Zambito wrote:
>
> I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation
> relating to the mailing lists and IRC logs
I'm technically one of the administrators of forums.debian.net and
would not recommend web-based "for
forums are not good because they are not as transparent as mailing
lists--you can search the guix mailing lists with Google, Bing or
whatever search engine you use, for example. Forum? probably not
Maybe an editable (wiki) site for FAQ will be good for sharing common
questions/answers.
On 2023-07-13 21:52, Sarthak Shah wrote:
> Hey Guix,
> I think we should seriously consider having a user forum similar to
> Debian's User Forum or Nixos' Discourse.
>
> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their
> problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they are
Robby Zambito writes:
> Hi Sarthak,
>
>> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their
>> problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very
>> easy to navigate compared to forum threads.
>
> I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documen
Hi Sarthak,
> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their
> problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very
> easy to navigate compared to forum threads.
I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation
relating to the mailing li
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