I've just cut out my paned sleeves and am planning to put a large gold
bead at each join - but am wondering what is normally done with the
underarm seam - do people join this seam or pane it as well? And if
paned, do you sew a bed to match the rest of the sleeve or leave just
plain? The dress i
In a message dated 1/18/2006 11:48:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Oooh, fun images! In the hunting costumes the ladies wear their
hair in the rugged and manly long flowing curls. Has anyone ever
seen this hairstyle worn with feminine style dress for this time
Oooh, fun images! In the hunting costumes the ladies wear their
hair in the rugged and manly long flowing curls. Has anyone ever
seen this hairstyle worn with feminine style dress for this time
period?
I also like the high heeled shoes with the ice skates strapped on. Cool!
I usually use a strip or two from a cheap roll of packing tape, but when I
have nothing close to hand, I will very lightly dampen my hands in the
nearest sink and gently rub the fur away. This seems to work with most
fabrics. The trick is to get your hands just moist enough it grips the hair,
but n
I developed a tolerance for all the "cat hair" jokes I get from SCA friends.
;o)
Basically, I do my best to keep the period clothing as far away from easy
feline access as possible, and if I'm going to be sitting on something in
the house when garbed, I make sure I've vacuumed, etc. I have 4 cats,
I can't see the dress, either. When you mentioned "riding" and
"sidesaddle" I tried the link a few more times, but I don't get
pictures.
Help!
Susan
"Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for". - "Ride the Dark
Trail"
Does it not occur that some people do not worry about such things as pet
furr unless you are out and about among people to whom such a vestige of
"barnyard" appearance is a problem? Even in this modern age one will know
or remember that when going here or there may make a difference as to what
one
The cap is a piece of regalia for the Order of the Pelican, an SCA Service
(peerage) award. If you are not in the SCA, it probably not well known. As I
said, it varies with the persona/ time period.
Monica/ Catriona in SCA
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E House wrote:
OK, how are you guys seeing this dress? All the link brings up for me
is an ad for Karen Augusta.
Try this
http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/leloirX2.htm
It's the 7th image down, Full hunting dress... 1692...
Dawn
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When I was young, my mom had a clothes brush which had metal bristles. She
loved it. Maybe it worked better at removing hair, etc. I don't even know if
you can get those anymore.
Young lovers seek perfection,
Old lovers learn the art of sewing shreds together
And of seeing beauty in a multiplicity
I am not familar with that cap. What does one look like?
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From: "monica spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Cap of Maintenance
Hi Arlys--
The cap is usually some sh
I don't think they cared. Animals were always in the house. Ever heard of a
3Dog Night? That meant the dogs slept on the bed to help heat the bed. So
they wouldn't have worried about the air, would be my guess.
With servants to do such mundaine ork, maybe they did the tiddying up of
velvets and
I made PDF files with CorelDraw. I can paste images into a page format, then
export it as PDF. You might want to download a trila version to see if it is
what you might use yourself. Then if you like it buy the full version.
PageMaker is similar and is used for text files such as desktop publishi
Hi, I'm new to this group.
Re: warming
A metal stove cools off quickly. I understand that's why Europeans
have those Tile Stoves. It takes long to heat, but also radiates heat
for a long time. The trick is to keep it hot/warm for maximum comfort
levels in the building.
Susan
"Slow down.
Reverse roll tape on your hand so the sticky side is out. Duct tape or that
clear packing tape works pretty well.
Monica
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Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [h-
Hi Arlys--
The cap is usually some shade of red. The look of the cap generally is
reflected by the persona: eg: a 16th C woman might have a red caul. Someone
I know with a German medieval persona has a small knitted cap. Depends on
what you want. I don't have a cap of maintenance-- never got one.
Might anyone here have a pattern for an SCA Pelican cap of maintenance
they'ld be willing to share? And what color is it usually?
Thank you for your help.
Arlys
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OK, how are you guys seeing this dress? All the link brings up for me is an
ad for Karen Augusta.
-E House
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I don't! I have a white cat and a black cat and between the two of them,
they can hair up ANYTHING. I've got a lint brush (works better for me than
the rollers) which works well on everything but fulled wool. I keep meaning
to try vacuuming my fulled wool, but the vacuum is such a nuisance to
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, Dawn wrote:
> jlkelley wrote:
> "Flowers" has been slang for quite a long time, and probably has an
> association with flowering and fertility, fruit and childbearing.
OED has it back to c. 1400:
c1400 Rel. Ant. I. 190 A woman schal in the harme blede For stoppyng of
hure f
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, jlkelley wrote:
> KP> Looking up "sangue" in Florios' 1611 Italian-English
> KP> Dictionary garners me a broad variety of derivatives
> KP> that can be applied to a woman's menstrual blood.
> KP> Looking up "menses" I get a period (pardon the pun)
> KP> term for a woman's mon
jlkelley wrote:
"Flowers" has been slang for quite a long time, and probably has an
association with flowering and fertility, fruit and childbearing.
I would bet it was in use long before drawers were worn.
Dawn
Having read quite a few penny dredfuls I have heard the term before.
I
I wish I knew. I only know that as a whole the entire
set of scans is 29 megs.
I wanted to make a PDF of them, but hubby, who
actually knows how to do that, is down with a virus
right now. So I did the best I could with what I had.
'sides, asking the computer demi god simple questions
like this is
How on earth did medieval and renaissance folks keep their velvets and
wools from looking like barnyard bedding? Surely even the servants of
the wealthy had better things to do than pick cat hairs off the master's
gowns? I've got two lint rollers and I just can't keep up with my two
ginger tabb
I wish I knew. I only know that as a whole the entire
set of scans is 29 megs.
I wanted to make a PDF of them, but hubby, who
actually knows how to do that, is down with a virus
right now. So I did the best I could with what I had.
'sides, asking the computer demi god simple questions
like this is
Having read quite a few penny dredfuls I have heard the term before.
If you wad up a pice of cloth to a wound and then remove it and unfold
the cloth you will have an impresionistic flower. So blood flowers on
cloth. Not sure if that is exactly what they ment in the defination.
just my p
Well, precisely! I have been smiling indulgently at this thread - some
of us actually live in the UK, y'know, and seem to manage fine ;-)
Jean
Karen R Bergquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
I think we are failing to take a very important issue into consideration-
acclimatization (sp?). I live n
I knew I had a link or two on "sweete bags", since it is an interest of mine.
The following is what I gleaned from a historical needlework resource, included
is the link to the site with even a few more links.
Roscelin
http://medieval.webcon.net.au/loc_england_elizabethan_sweetbags.html
"Swee
Hi,
There is a lovely book published by Livrustkammaren wich is called
MODELEJON. It is about mens fashion from early renaissance to 1800's
Its a fabulous book packed with gorgeous pictures, big and heavy two.
Bjarne
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It looks to me as if the front could be a very deep sort of box pleat, with the
front edges of the pleat forming the CF of the skirt. I am not basing this on
any knowledge of the period, just how the drawing looks.
~Kimberley
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From: Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PRO
At 07:59 AM 1/18/2006, you wrote:
For those whom were asking for it, here it is. The
Livrustkammaren Journal of the Royal Armoury
Stockholm, Vol. IV:8-9 Stureskjortorna by Anna-Maja
Nylen. It's a BIG file, I have zipped it, but be
prepared. I have scanned everything LARGE so that
details are pres
Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote:
Size? Not very big. They were "sweetbags"--i.e., a kind of period sachet
that you carried about to ward off nasty odors. They were popular as gifts.
Here's one from the Boston Museum of Fine Arts--theirs is 9 cm by 9 cm --yes,
that less than 4 inches on a
For those whom were asking for it, here it is. The
Livrustkammaren Journal of the Royal Armoury
Stockholm, Vol. IV:8-9 Stureskjortorna by Anna-Maja
Nylen. It's a BIG file, I have zipped it, but be
prepared. I have scanned everything LARGE so that
details are preserved.
http://outoftheattic.homeip
In a message dated 1/18/2006 4:18:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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The caption says that the outfit is "with sash and mask",
So THAT'S what is in the other hand!
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The skirt is not split. But it may be seamed in the CF...and embroidered to
show it is. If she were to ride, it would be side saddle. [Imagine wearing a
train like that out in the country hunting!] The sash [looks like a brocaded
or embroidered silk] is in imitation of men's wearlike the
In a message dated 1/17/2006 11:14:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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It looks to me like the outfit is attempting to ape a man's outfit, and the
sash would not be part of a man's outfit at this time, so I suspect it's
"just for pretty".
Ahbut it would, o
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Hi Dawn,
I think nr 3 is open in the top. It would be made of two rectangles, and it
would probably be lined. Nr. 6 is made of 4 parts.
The heavily embroidered is made with cross stitches.
The last one is difficult to explain. To me it seems to be made on a heavily
ribbed silk. The coloured par
Hi,
The scarf or sashet she is wearing seems to be embroidered. Could it be a
silk satin? A taffeta would be two stiff.
The skirt is made to look like the fronts of gentlemens jackets, and my
guess is it only is made for the looks. A lady was never to be seen in
culottes, my godness, never.
Th
Precisely what I meant when referring to our cottage at the museum. The fire
was lit each day as we arrived; in real life it would have been going all day
and perhaps, banked down, all night, so the fireplace structure would have
absorbed some of the heat (though a lot went up the chimney).
Kat
I am finding this discussion of knuckle length sleeve discussion to be
interesting. In other cultures of this same time period or fashion
development, you can see a similar extra long sleeve in development. I am
thinking of the 'hoof' cuff in northern Asia at the moment. The evolvement
of the Mon
I've been looking at one very much like purse #2! There is one almost
identical in the V&A, different wording and different coloured leather.
I wonder if it was a kit?
Kelly/Estela
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From: "Dawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
At 09:03 18/01/2006, you wrote:
--- Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I make cuffed sleeves, I simply cut them on the
> bias, and add
> enough length at the wrist to turn up to make the
> cuff. I fully line
> the sleeves. That way you can wear them knuckle
> length *and* turned
> bac
--- Robin Netherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't looked up your source, but do I gather
> that you're saying the
> source doesn't have knuckle-length sleeves, but
> you're adding them because
> you like the look for your purposes?
That's right. The Bodleian 264 sleeves are tight and
end
The caption says that the outfit is "with sash and mask", not that it is FOR a
masque. Presumably the mask is the black thing in her right hand. In this
period riding habits were often made with the upper half exactly like men's
clothing - Pepys mentions it as a new fashion in the 1660s. Sashes
--- Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I make cuffed sleeves, I simply cut them on the
> bias, and add
> enough length at the wrist to turn up to make the
> cuff. I fully line
> the sleeves. That way you can wear them knuckle
> length *and* turned
> back. I don't think I left them op
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