Hi Rosecelin,
A good source of knit historians is the Historic Kint list.
It's a Yahoogroup,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/historicknit/
You didn't say what era you friend prefers - different people
concentrate on different time periods, cultures, etc. There are a
lot of great dis
> Ooo...look what I found.
> http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_238.htm
> De
I LOVE this website! I know that they show the details to help sell the
clothing but it is AWESOME for us historical costumers that may not ever
get to study garments like these in person.
Thanks so much for sharin
I recently had the experience to spend the day outside in a misting rainy
enviroment in skirts that touched the ground, if not lay upon the ground a bit.
Even though the bottom ten inches or so were wet, my ankles and legs were not
so cold as they were a little later when I found a belt that I
What I learned was that as castles were very cold and during religious
services, everyone stood (no benches, ladies would actually stand on their
long skirts for comfort and warmth.
Sharon
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What did the dresses at the Ren Fest look like?
Also, What period/year did you say you were trying for for hers and your
costumes?
You can get away with (if it is Tudor/Henry VIII style) a
shift/chemise/shirt and the gown. Chemise could be lower thigh to knee
length. You already have the headgear.
Oops, I need to clarify. Yes the puffs are fake from my interpretation of
the painting. I was trying through a fogged brain (still a bit fogged) to
say the "epaulette"(?) or the sleeve section with the poofs coming out is
attached to the gown bodice and the embroidered sleeves which I believe are
d
Okay perhaps I used the wrong label at least the online dictionarys seem to
say so. It is usually defined as an ornamental, detachable front of a
woman's bodice similar to a stomacher?
This is a stomacher to give a rough idea.
http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_230.htm
De
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Ooo...look what I found.
http://www.vintagetextile.com/new_page_238.htm
De
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At 09:42 AM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
Found this, and thoaght some of you might not have seen it yeat.
http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?coll_keywords=dress&submit.x=3&submit.y=10&coll_start=81
Bjarne
Thank you Bjarne,
I got to playing around with the search engine, and found this in
In a related note, no really, do you have a more current email address for
the fine establishment of "The Practical Goose". I met you and them some
few years ago at Pennisc, and believe you to be better acquainted to them
than am I. I have a friend who would like to send some business there wa
By the way, please excuse this question if it has been discussed. When
did crocheting come along? I was told long ago that it started after 1650
- Is this true? I've been trying to convince a few of my needlework
students that it is out of period for our group.
Something like 1830, last
Hi. Most historians of knitting (there are only a few major ones and a
lot of amateurs) agree that crochet started after 1650. There are a
number of other techniques that superficially resemble each other, but
those who practice them can show you the differences. Your friend wants
to do a searc
Oh, how interesting! I always figured the puffs were faked, since they show
no signs of embroidery
--Sue
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From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Tudor roses
>
It could be a shirt (embroidered shirts with collars have certainly
survived), but I think people may also be keyed into the bits that show up
in texts (such as the lists of New Year's gifts in _Queen Elizabeth's
Wardrobe unlocked), and detail "partlets and sleeves" as a "set" and not a
single item
> Is there a way to make a smock that can create the illusion of being
> different parts and still be accuate?
Well the intent of the sleeves is to not look different to the partlet, if
they are indeed seperate items;)
I personally feel she is wearing a garment similar to the smock in the V&A
tha
What's a "plastron"? I looked up and the range was all over the place. I
found one necklace of the Romanovs that was gorgeous but I don't know if
that is what the term applies to or not.
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Hello again,
Thanks again for all the links. I was planning on
a padded satin stitch for the roses, more like the
Helena Snakenborg, but with more of a scatter pattern
like some of the Italian shifts. Thanks again.
Cassandra
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Recently there was a discussion about the history of knitting. I didn't
really pay to much attention to it since I do not knit. But a friend of mine
is a knitter and wants to talk to anyone who does know the history of knitting.
If you can help, would you please contact me privately so I
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Thank you. This looks to be worn under a dress as a combination forepart and
plastron.
Ooh, now that's something that I hadn't considered!
Jerusha
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Susan Farmer
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h
I hope someone can assist me. One of the members of my "household" wants to
take a look at what a 10th to the 11th C. German. craftsman would have worn. I
tried to look through the net - but must not of worded my search correctly
because I could not find anything. Thanks!
Roscelin
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Is there a way to make a smock that can create the illusion of being
different parts and still be accuate? With my daughter being so young, I
think that fewer layers would be better for her. She won't be in any
competition of costume so I think we can fudge the costume for comfort and
design. I
In a message dated 2/14/2006 5:34:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Those
Frenchthey may not be accurate, but they are beautifully executed!
HeyI made a French Revolution joke :-P
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Not sure why the 'gown shorter than the kirtle' idea? Can you explain?
As for the length of dresses seeming long, we in the modern era walk
differently than ladies of the historical era would have. If, when you are
walking, you let your toes drop to a relax point when stepping forward, it
is d
Have you seen the "Three Musketeers" and the "Four Musketeers" with
Michael
York, Richard Chamberlain, and Oliver Reed? Talk about costumes!!! They
are
amazing, and they have recently become available on DVD. Although again,
Raquel Welch's costumes were designed differently from all the rest,
Thank you. This looks to be worn under a dress as a combination forepart and
plastron.
Thank you again. :)
De
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Found this, and thoaght some of you might not have seen it yeat.
http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?coll_keywords=dress&submit.x=3
&submit.y=10&coll_s
Hi all,
Forgive me if you've seen this question on another list before, but I
didn't get any response, so I was hoping those learned folk here would be
able to provide some insight.
I've been looking at the online effigies database
(http://www.jmdsrv1.dyndns.org/tudoreffigies), and was struc
Hi Zuzanna,
I looked at the picture from the movie you sended a link to.
The costumes looks gorgeous, but:
The bodices are much two long. The cavallier style had high waists, and for
some reason movies always makes the bodices two long in my oppinion.
There is only one bodice/ corset survived fro
Zuzana wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've always been fascinated by the costumes from "Trois mousquetaires" (1961,
> two parts, starring G.Barray), I've never seen a historical movie where the
> people in the costumes would look so good like here. I'm only a bit suspicious
> that the kind of women's costume
I was leaning towards the chemise under the smock too, since you wouldn't want
all that embroidery to have to be washed a lot and not only is the construction
easier, it's easier to wear as a smock than a partlet and sleeves with this
style of gown/sleeve, IMHO of course.
alex
[EMAIL PRO
Thanks so much, Bjarne! It's wonderful. Now if it were only in color and on
view. Oh, well. I guess we can't have everything.
Kate
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Zuzana, I've never come across this film before, but the dress in the
photograph looks historically inaccurate to me. Costume designers in the 1960s
used to dress the leading ladies according to the modern taste for a "natural"
bustline; they thought audiences would find straight-fronted bodices
In a message dated 2/14/2006 1:50:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I really wonder how the dresses (here I mean mainly the costumes of the
queen and milady) were made - .[snip]. It shouldn't be, but if there
would not be any stiffening in the bodice, how come
1975? On imdb.com is only a 1974 "The four Musketeers". Then what's the other
movie you meant? Anyway, I've seen The four musketeers some years ago, so I
don't really remember the costumes (I wasn't interested in them yet), but I
think I'll definitively download it... Michael York is my favorite
Hi again,
Forgot to add that the skirt in Evolution is cut in cone shapes, but i did
not use this. I used full width of the skirt.
Dawns bumroll pattern would be ideal for this.
Bjarne
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In a message dated 2/14/2006 1:50:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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I've never seen a historical movie where the people in the costumes would
look so good like here.
Hmm...
The gowns look to me like late-50s - early 60s , and I mean 1950s and 60s,
silhouette
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Found this, and thoaght some of you might not have seen it yeat.
http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?coll_keywords=dress&submit.x=3&submit.y=10&coll_start=81
No, I hadn't! Thanks, Bjarne! Short-sleeves and embroidery too! If it
wa
In a message dated 2/14/2006 10:17:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Just curious, why do you think this is not an embroidered smock but partlet
and sleeves?
I wondered that too...but you can see a smidgen of a chemise underneath...at
the CF opening. Of course th
Hi all,
I've always been fascinated by the costumes from "Trois mousquetaires" (1961,
two parts, starring G.Barray), I've never seen a historical movie where the
people in the costumes would look so good like here. I'm only a bit suspicious
that the kind of women's costume was used a bit later
Found this, and thoaght some of you might not have seen it yeat.
http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?coll_keywords=dress&submit.x=3&submit.y=10&coll_start=81
Bjarne
Leif og Bjarne Drews
www.my-drewscostumes.dk
http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/
In my interpretation of the portrait, I believe that the puffed sections are
attached to the bodice and the rose embroidered sleeves are detachable. But
others have interpreted the what I believe is a partlet and sleeves to be a
shirt.
There is a dress diary online somewhere that recreates the outf
Though I am not 100% sure that it is a partlet and sleeves, it looks as if
she is wearing a chemise under the alleged partlet.
Though once upon a time I would have said "because the sleeves and partlet
look of different materials" but I have noticed a while back that the
sleeves don't match real we
As for roses, this is a partlet and sleeves not a shift but good for
inspiration
http://www.tudor-portraits.com/HelenaSnakeborg.jpg
De
Just curious, why do you think this is not an embroidered smock but partlet
and sleeves?
alex
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In this one: http://www.tudor-portraits.com/HelenaSnakeborg.jpg Are the
bands on the shoulder and the sleeve attached or is the sleeve one that
comes off (Attached by ribbons or hooks?) I love those shoulder puffed
bands. I have the directions on how to make them. I just wanted to know if
the s
Elizabeth likes the Unknown child7 picture. That is the basic design I
wanted to use. I'll keep that one to use for reference.
Thanks.
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From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Fire Mountain carries a full color range of rat-tail silk cord (and also
mouse-tail). I use these braided or twisted together as well as for
couching. Dharma carries this also in white and now, black.
kathleen
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Hi,
I got a link for a supplier of silk cord!
http://www.ribbonsmyth.com/ribbdyes.htm
In case somebody else are interrested.
Bjarne
Leif og Bjarne Drews
www.my-drewscostumes.dk
http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/
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