Re: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle, air filter hat

2006-03-02 Thread Kimiko Small
At 07:49 AM 3/1/2006, you wrote: I recently came across this excellent web page covering both of these subjects: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/15th/ Thank you Tea Rose for that. I am not as familiar with images or styles of the century preceding, so that is a great help. Kimiko

Re: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle {was Princess Elizabeth}

2006-03-02 Thread Kimiko Small
At 01:54 AM 3/1/2006, you wrote: I realise these are not 16th century, but short sleeves kirtles were obviously worn earlier, so is it possibly that the fashion could have continued in the later period? Suzi Thank you Suzi for sharing those links. I can only presume that such fashions

Re: [h-cost] Redwork

2006-03-02 Thread Kate M Bunting
It's also reproduced in The Art of Dress, where it's attributed to a follower of Hans Eworth. No explanation is offered for the inscription Maria Regina. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/2006 07:00 At 07:41 AM 2/28/2006, you wrote: Mistress

Re: RE: [h-cost] Princess Elizabeth

2006-03-02 Thread Becky
I have written to her. She answered me quickly and said I could ask anytime. I just thought I'd pose a question to other costumers on the discussion boards. It really doesn't matter, but I can make the Princess Elizabeth garb now with confidence. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] Waists, waists, waists

2006-03-02 Thread Kitty Felton
Cynthia Virtue wrote: The waist would be a horizontal oval intersecting those points, right? Not a shape which dips down from the horizontal while intersecting those points. I have to roll the front waistband of off-the-rack skirts so that the hem hangs horizontal because of this. If I

Re: [h-cost] Waists, waists, waists

2006-03-02 Thread Kitty Felton
Megan M. wrote: I think it is more common than you think - I have the same issue. The waistbands on my scrubs come up almost to my bra in front. And I don't know why they cut them so high. *sigh* I guess that's why I like to sew. -Megan for most of us it isn't the clothing which is cut

Re: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle {was Princess Elizabeth}

2006-03-02 Thread michaela
Is it possible that the lines are woven into the fabric? After all, her sleeve fabric has very elaborate flowered scroll designs. I have *no* clue! It's rows of alternating trapezoids -- /\/\/\/\ is the apparrent arrangement of the pieces It's quite likely the shapes are caused by the fur

RE: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle {was Princess Elizabeth}

2006-03-02 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 20:20 01/03/2006, you wrote: Quoting Sharon at Collierfam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it possible that the lines are woven into the fabric? After all, her sleeve fabric has very elaborate flowered scroll designs. I have *no* clue! It's rows of alternating trapezoids -- /\/\/\/\ is the

Re: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle {was Princess Elizabeth}

2006-03-02 Thread Sue Clemenger
Uh...I don't think it's a matter of cabbaging, if that's a word? ;o) I bet it's indicative of a fur lining. Several other paintings on that website depict fur-lined gowns/skirts, and have similar lines on the skirts. We've talked about something similar before (the painting's one of the ones on

[h-cost] Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread Kate M Bunting
My mother has had to go into a nursing home and I'm clearing her house. I've found numerous tablecloths and napkins, some quite old and interesting, a lot of which have food stains on. I've washed them with Vanish (if you don't have that in the US, it's a new oxygen-based stain remover) but it

Re: [h-cost] Waists, waists, waists

2006-03-02 Thread Kitty Felton
Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: At 02:12 PM 6/28/2005 -0400, you wrote: snip I have to roll the front waistband of off-the-rack skirts so that the hem hangs horizontal because of this. If I had the time, I'd hem the skirts properly. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre Argent You

Re: [h-cost] The Prado Magdalen's skirt (was: short sleeved kirtle)

2006-03-02 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Susan B. Farmer wrote: I have *no* clue! It's rows of alternating trapezoids -- /\/\/\/\ is the apparrent arrangement of the pieces Actually, the trapezoids do not alternate. They are all placed with the short side up, so that

Re: [h-cost] Non-Elizabethan Tudor Corset a Myth! (was PrincessElizabeth)

2006-03-02 Thread Kimiko Small
At 09:53 AM 3/1/2006, you wrote: Well, this is going to be the short version! I have a room full of new cloth and I want to go sew now! =} Hey, I don't blame you. I hope you got in some good sewing time. snip some great info. Thanks Hope this helps. You can distribute it/use it for teaching,

Re: [h-cost] Re: Quality of clothing

2006-03-02 Thread Susan Data-Samtak
Sandy- Tell them you don't like the change. Can't hurt and they might actually listen to a customer. Susan Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for.  - Ride the Dark Trail by Louis L'Amour On Mar 2, 2006, at 12:34 AM,

RE: [h-cost] Alexandrian cap

2006-03-02 Thread ruthanneb
I was disappointed that, among all these images of the Phrygian or liberty cap, Google did NOT find the college seal of my alma mater, Dickinson College (est. 1773, Carlisle, PA). Our seal has three objects: a telescope, a Bible, and the Phrygian cap, along with the motto that we are the

Re: [h-cost] Redwork

2006-03-02 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Kate M Bunting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's also reproduced in The Art of Dress, where it's attributed to a follower of Hans Eworth. No explanation is offered for the inscription Maria Regina. Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/2006 07:00 At

Re: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle {was Princess Elizabeth}

2006-03-02 Thread Robin Netherton
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, michaela wrote: It's quite likely the shapes are caused by the fur lining. The fur would have to be pieced.Why they show through who knows. This was discussed somewhere.. I think the MedCos community. No, here; see my note under a new subject line. --Robin

Re: [h-cost] Waists, waists, waists

2006-03-02 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: At 02:12 PM 6/28/2005 -0400, you wrote: snip I have to roll the front waistband of off-the-rack skirts so that the hem hangs horizontal because of this. If I had the time, I'd hem the skirts properly. -- Cynthia Virtue and/or Cynthia du Pre

Re: [h-cost] Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread Dawn
Kate M Bunting wrote: My mother has had to go into a nursing home and I'm clearing her house. I've found numerous tablecloths and napkins, some quite old and interesting, a lot of which have food stains on. I've washed them with Vanish (if you don't have that in the US, it's a new

[h-cost] slightly O-T greetings of the (passing) season

2006-03-02 Thread ruthanneb
Hello the list-- My truelove has kindly given me parking space on his website for the photo I took after our FIRST snowfall of the season and intended as a greeting card for the h-cost list. Today we're having what MIGHT be the last snowfall of the season. Who would expect in a modest little

[h-cost] Fit of a victorian bodice

2006-03-02 Thread sunshine_buchler
Hi, I'm making an 1865-70 bodice (first bustle era) starting from the Truly Victorian ball bodice pattern, and I'm having trouble with the fit around the armholes -- there's a horizontal stress line about 1/2 above the bottom of the armhole (right at the top of my corset) it extends about 3

[h-cost] re: Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread Cin
My mother has had to go into a nursing home and I'm clearing her house. I've found numerous tablecloths and napkins, some quite old and interesting, a lot of which have food stains on. I've washed them with Vanish (if you don't have that in the US, it's a new oxygen-based stain remover) but it

Re: [h-cost] re: Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread ruthanneb
I just ran down to the basement to copy the label for this product-- I've had good luck with it but have used it on only two pieces, so I can't say I've done exhaustive testing! It's called RESTORATION, and it claims Revives color and freshness to antique linens...removes most stains.

Re: [h-cost] re: Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 3/2/2006 2:26:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I havent dared use it, but if I do, it's to serve white wine, dry foods with brush-away crumbs, no grease and it goes to the pros afterwards. grin I would stick to sparkling water--even white wine

Re: [h-cost] re: Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread Elizabeth Young
Cin wrote: To prevent or postpone future foxing, line your linen storage in buffered papers. I just use an old cotton sheet as the bottom layer in my cedar closet. I have two hopeless linen table cloths that I use to wrap the non-hopless ones in while storing them. liz young

Re: [h-cost] Partly OT: Stains on table linen

2006-03-02 Thread AnnBWass
Sometimes the discoloration is actually a chemical change of the fibers, so nothing will change it. But, by all means, try sun bleaching. If all else fails, can you cut around the stained parts to make things--women's undergarments, for example. Ann

Re: [h-cost] Goldwork

2006-03-02 Thread G.Vinje
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:45:55 -0600, E House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of any good resources for learning about the authentic stuff? Any suggestions for modern books that might help me with technique? If you want one book that covers just about everything there is to cover

[h-cost] Re: body shaping (was corset myth)

2006-03-02 Thread Gail Scott Finke
Elena House wrote: The whole garment is a solution to a specific body-shaping problem; a problem which has been solved in different ways over the centuries, and which must be solved in different ways the desired body shape changes over time. In the 13thC, the solution was breast-wrapping;

Re: [h-cost] Goldwork

2006-03-02 Thread roscelinlimoges
The book I have is called Goldwork by Search Press. It has some history in it and shows how to do each of the techniques for goldwork. I've heard that the Jane Lemon book is the best though. Or nue' is the stitching of metal threads with a fine colored thread to make shaded or colored

Re: [h-cost] Re: body shaping (was corset myth)

2006-03-02 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: Gail Scott Finke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both your replies to the original query were fascinating! I loved all the quotes. But now I am interested in a different item listed above. When you say that in the 13th century the solution to desired body shaping was

[h-cost] Goldwork

2006-03-02 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
1st: Dont buy or borrow Kreinicks book about metal thread embroidery. Its just crap, a lot of cross stitch patterns using metallic threads. But a very useable good book, very small, but cheap is Needle Crafts 20 Goldwork. Its published by Search Press Limited, Tunbridge Wells, Kent - England.

[h-cost] Dangerous Liasions Fashion and Furniture Catalog

2006-03-02 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
I heard from 18th century womens list, that the catalog from the museum, is finally available. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list

Or nue (was Re: [h-cost] Goldwork

2006-03-02 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting E House [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And is this what was called Or Nue'? Or nue is some of the most awesome needlework ever produced by human hands. The cardinal is Or Nue http://www.berlinembroidery.com/cardinal.htm The gold threads are couched down with red silk. How close together the

Re: [h-cost] Goldwork

2006-03-02 Thread Becky
It looks like some of the gold work done on the Japanese fabrics I saw in school. The gold was wrapped around a silk thread but you had to have an eyepiece to see it that close. It was fantastic details in the antique fabrics. I don't remember the time period, but very old. I'd love to learn

Re: [h-cost] Goldwork

2006-03-02 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting E House [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't waste anywhere near enough money on my sewing (HAH!) so now that I work for my fabric instead of paying for it, I've decided to add on a nice, stupidly expensive hobby: I want to get into goldwork! Specifically, the sort that would be used for

Re: [h-cost] slightly O-T greetings of the (passing) season

2006-03-02 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Thursday 02 March 2006 1:32 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Who would expect in a modest little neighborhood in Fairfield Connecticut to drive around the corner and find a pair of snowpersons one of whom was wearing a HENNIN? I assume a little girl wanted to give her Hallowe'en costume

RE: [h-cost] Alexandrian cap

2006-03-02 Thread Kathryn Parke
Well, this is really fascinating, because I read about it as a part of an ensemble worn to a Regency ball -- not a particularly young woman, but also (I believe), not of the old, turbaned dowager variety. I can't imagine such a thing being worn w/ a formal ballgown, and (although I don't claim

RE: [h-cost] Alexandrian cap

2006-03-02 Thread otsisto
The phrygian hat is also called the Liberty hat and is worn by the French Lady Liberty, Marianne. It was about the time of the French revolution that it became popular. http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/france_159/discovering-france_2005/france-f

[h-cost] The Change Hand Fans

2006-03-02 Thread Penny Ladnier
Okay ladies... how many of you have had hot flashes and found that your hand fans are your new best friend? I have been collecting hands fans for the past 10 years. They had only come out of the drawer in the summertime when sitting by the pool. Now with the hot flashes, I carry them with