Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Lavolta Press
Not my era, but those tortoise brooches are all hollowed, right? Which argues for them being put over some convex body area. Also, I came across this interesting link: http://www3.baylor.edu/~Chris_Marsh/risala.htm In section 82 there are two references to females wearing metal or wooden

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Margo Anderson
This reconstruction isn't what I would describe as provocative by modern standards! Just goes to show what to what lengths the media will go to to sex things up. Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

[h-cost] Re: Linen costume question

2008-02-12 Thread FyneHats2
I just scored 5 1/3 yards of linen blend at my local Joanne's on clearance for only $3.00/yard! The only trouble is that it is black linen - but I thought Hey, linen - only $3 - I can make something from that! My question to the group now - what can I make? I do have linen in other colors

Re: [h-cost] Re: Linen costume question

2008-02-12 Thread lauren . walker
My first thought would be to go with the late Victorian/Edwardian. You have to be careful with mourning customs earlier, but thanks to Queen Victoria, by then it had become fashionable to spend your life in mourning -- or just look like you were. And 5 1/3 yards might get you to a late Vict.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, Margo Anderson wrote: This reconstruction isn't what I would describe as provocative by modern standards! Just goes to show what to what lengths the media will go to to sex things up. True, it's not provocative by modern standards, but to be fair to the poor

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: There has been a bit of discussion about this on the Norsefolk_2 list. Here is an image of her reconstruction: see bottom of http://www.uu.se/press/pm.php?id=48 http://www.newsdesk.se/pressroom/uu/image/view/pm_vikingakvinna1-5825

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Melanie Schuessler
On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote: It might also depend on whether Viking women bound or otherwise wore undergarments that supported the breasts (something we really have no data on at present). Indeed. I notice that the reconstruction is worn over a modern

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Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, Lavolta Press wrote: Not my era, but those tortoise brooches are all hollowed, right? Which argues for them being put over some convex body area. As someone else pointed out, the pin goes through the center hollow, which cuts against a placement over the nipple.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, Melanie Schuessler wrote: On Feb 12, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond wrote: It might also depend on whether Viking women bound or otherwise wore undergarments that supported the breasts (something we really have no data on at present). Indeed.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Jean Waddie
My first reaction is - that looks chilly! Why would you use all that fabric to keep your bum warm and not your torso? It looks more convincing with the shawl, but as Hanna said, the Valkyrie figure seems to have something apron-like in front. My husband has also commented that there is

Re: [h-cost] Origin of velvet

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I know this is going to be one of those simple questions with a complicated answer, but I was just curious about when and where velvet was invented? Specifically, would velvet or something similar have been available, even to the very

RE: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread otsisto
That is more of a Celtic and Roman style with tubular apron and no straps. -Original Message- I have to say I don't think I've ever seen anyone in re-enacting circles wear them as high as the collarbone (cited in the article as the location that this new theory is debunking).

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, Hanna Zickermann wrote: That´s the most beautiful Viking/Rus outfit I´ve seen so far! But when I suggested the look to an SCA friend for court garb, she pointed out the little string that holds the upper edge together quite awquardly, and there would be strain on

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Melanie Schuessler
Do you mean that the collarbone-location style referred to in the article is more like a peplos? Were these large brooches worn with those? The people I mentioned that I've seen were wearing dresses with straps and the brooches somewhere between the collarbone and the nipple. Thanks,

[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 57

2008-02-12 Thread SNSpies
that Valkyria figure next to the photo with the shawl Those little Valkyrie figures date from the Migration period and should not be used to extrapolate Viking garb. Nancy Nancy Spies Arelate Studio _www.weavershand.com/ArelateStudio.html_

[h-cost] Origin of velvet

2008-02-12 Thread tearoses
Okay, I know this is going to be one of those simple questions with a complicated answer, but I was just curious about when and where velvet was invented? Specifically, would velvet or something similar have been available, even to the very rich, in Constantinople around 800 AD? If not, when

Re: [h-cost] Re: Linen costume question

2008-02-12 Thread Dawn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, linen - only $3 - I can make something from that! My question to the group now - what can I make? I do have linen in other colors as well, but what periods, styles or types of garments could I use with the black? It'll always be good as a lining. IIRC the

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread lauren . walker
I'm curious -- has Thora Sharptooth weighed in on this on Norsefolk? I'd be interested in her thoughts. Lauren -- Original message -- From: Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] There has been a bit of discussion about this on the Norsefolk_2 list. Here is an image

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Hanna Zickermann
That´s the most beautiful Viking/Rus outfit I´ve seen so far! But when I suggested the look to an SCA friend for court garb, she pointed out the little string that holds the upper edge together quite awquardly, and there would be strain on the pearl string if you remove that little string.

RE: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread otsisto
I'm not sure what you are saying but if you are saying that the tortoise brooches were worn over the mammary because they are bowl like, this would be incorrect because there is a vertical pin in it. -Original Message- Discoveries Not my era, but those tortoise brooches are all

Re: [h-cost] 14th C. hairnets

2008-02-12 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
At 01:01 PM 2/12/2008, you wrote: Where did you find the addition information? Astrid It was posted by a member of another list (75 years) in response to my request for additional information from the original article in Waffen... (see bottom of photos for citation). I have not seen that

[h-cost] Lövsta Gård in Sweden

2008-02-12 Thread Leif og Bjarne Drews
Gustafs Skål invited to a small winter party at Lövsta Gård on the second of february this year. It was very cosy and intimate because we were not as manny people as usually when they invite to partys at Beatelund. I compleately forgot to take pictures, but a lady borrowed my camera, and ended

RE: [h-cost] Origin of velvet

2008-02-12 Thread Abel, Cynthia
Yes, it does have a complicated answer. Scholars are still debating it. Try this website: http://www.florilegium.org/files/TEXTILES/Hst-of-Velvet-art.html for a mention of velvet as early as 948 AD in Moorish Spain. But it might have existed on Constantinople earlier, but silk velvet doesn't seem

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 12 February 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious -- has Thora Sharptooth weighed in on this on Norsefolk? I'd be interested in her thoughts. Lauren Not yet--though I expect she will eventually. It's possible she hasn't seen a photo of Larssen's proposed reconstruction yet.

RE: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Abel, Cynthia
Thanks for the link. This is a simple in shape, but effective look. I haven't been able to attend the Eastern Nebraska/Western Iowa Renfaire for the last couple of years, but there was a group in Tartar(our Middle Ages era)costume, complete with weaponry, the last time I was there. With the

Re: [h-cost] Thank You Albert (OT) plus some Miss America info

2008-02-12 Thread LLOYD MITCHELL
Ours got to keep the flyspace but the garage door between the shop and stage is only 10x10 so we still have to build everything On stage..just as we always had to in the little theater.. When a show is up for performance, the costumes are hanging out there in the shop and it is a trial to keep

Re: [h-cost] Costume shop

2008-02-12 Thread LLOYD MITCHELL
Hey, this makes sense! Ill pass this on to the present shop steward. Kathleen - Original Message - From: Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Costume shop The kitchenette was for

[h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

2008-02-12 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
There has been a bit of discussion about this on the Norsefolk_2 list. Here is an image of her reconstruction: see bottom of http://www.uu.se/press/pm.php?id=48 http://www.newsdesk.se/pressroom/uu/image/view/pm_vikingakvinna1-5825 Beth At 01:01 PM 2/12/2008, you wrote: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008

RE: [h-cost] Re: Linen costume question

2008-02-12 Thread Sharon Collier
Mourning underwear. Black petticoat for wearing under Ren dress so the dirt doesn't show as much as with lighter fabrics. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]