[h-cost] Pros Cons of Gores in Corsets

2011-03-25 Thread michaeljdeib...@gmail.com
Sharon, I personally Believe that there is no wrong question, but I can't vouch for everyone. I too am interested in what everyone's opinions and theories are regarding gores in corsets. I believe someone already mentioned that gores went out of fashion when things became industrialized due

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread Lisa A Ashton
I have found the gores to be very useful fitting the bust and hip areas of a corset, when the waist size and length are correct, but the bust and hip areas need more space. The great thing about them is, they can be easily adjusted for cup size on the bust, and for the hip ones, they can be

Re: [h-cost] Pros Cons of Gores in Corsets

2011-03-25 Thread Laurie Taylor
Period accuracy considerations aside for the moment, gores will give you more control over the grain of the additional fabric. Adding more and more flare to the side of a panel does result in a lot of bias, which may not be a bad thing. But gores let you decide, to a greater extent, how much

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread albertcat
The spoon busk was quite before the 19th C. so it wouldn't be considered for the Victorian period anyway. *** The spoon busk is almost exclusively 1870s... so it is VERY victorian. ___ h-costume mailing list

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread albertcat
there were many corset patterns that used gores - yet many of the current commercial patterns focus on those without. Is there a reason for this that anyone might be aware of? ** Gores come in when the conical 18th century corset started to morph into the curvy 19th century

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread Michael Deibert
I hope I'm not asking for too much, but could we perhaps have some references - for both viewpoints. Perhaps it's just a simple confusion or misunderstanding? And perhaps both could be right. But until we have references to either or both if that be the case, I'd like to avoid being the start of

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread albertcat
Perhaps the term spoon busk is the source of the confusion. But a spoon busk is this: http://store.corsetmaking.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=B-GSBSP12Category_Code=BProduct_Count=28 I you look in your Corsets and Crinolines you will not find one before the 1870's...

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread albertcat
I forgot to add: I have never seen a spoon busk that wasn't a split busk. I have never seen an 18th century busk that WAS a split busk. -Original Message- From: albert...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2011 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread Lavolta Press
On 3/25/2011 10:04 AM, Michael Deibert wrote: I hope I'm not asking for too much, but could we perhaps have some references - for both viewpoints. I agree that research in books and other publications is where you should start. Here are three different bibliographies:

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread Michael Deibert
Fran I was actually referencing to the issue of when spoon busks were in style - but those links are still great! I was unaware of the first three! While there can be many good links through The Costumer's Manifesto, there are also some not so great ones, in addition to stores. It just takes

[h-cost] Costuming for Charity: Haiti Community Center

2011-03-25 Thread Cherylyn Crill
My apology if this is not an appropriate message for this list.   I believe that a number of members of this group are familiar with Catherine Hay of ‘Your Wardrobe Unlock’d’ and ‘Foundations Revealed’. A few years back she decided to make a reproduction of the Worth “Oak Leaf” gown and turned

Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions

2011-03-25 Thread Ann Catelli
1880s-style spoon busk: http://store.corsetmaking.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGYStore_Code=CMSCategory_Code=SB1AFFIL=CM nayy I never heard of any other style busk being called a spoon busk, but could have missed such a thing. Ann in CT --- On Thu, 3/24/11, R Lloyd Mitchell