behalf of Robin Netherton
Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 10:59 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: RE: [h-cost] tippets
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Schaeffer, Astrida wrote:
> There -are- examples of tippets in other colors, and some are sure
> drawn or painted in a truly light and fluttery way tha
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Schaeffer, Astrida wrote:
> There -are- examples of tippets in other colors, and some are sure
> drawn or painted in a truly light and fluttery way that seems to imply
> delicate fabrics, but more often than not they're white and if you can
> look closely enough you can see t
ashionable. ; )
Astrida
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Zuzana Kraemerova
Sent: Thu 3/15/2007 3:43 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] tippets
Thanks to everyone for the advice!
When thinking about tippets, I came to another interesting - at leas
Thanks to everyone for the advice!
When thinking about tippets, I came to another interesting - at leas for me -
question - did they have some particular purpose or were they just decoration?
I mean now the white, narrow ones that look as a separate accessory (this
doesn't mean that they
On Tuesday 13 March 2007 12:45 pm, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote:
> Hi,
>
> does someone know how the tippets used to be attached to the dress? By
> pins? Or were they sewn-on?
> http://vieuxchamps.com/persona/enlarged/wg/wpic7.php
Your question assumes that tippets were a separate part of the dress.
>Zuzana, Astrida may have given you all the information you
>need, but if you want to see the "current scholarship," you'll
>find it in a paper I wrote a few years ago: "The Tippet:
>Accessory after the Fact?" in Medieval Clothing and Textiles
>1, ed. Robin Netherton and Gale Owen-Crocker (Boyd
Zuzana asked:
> > does someone know how the tippets used to be attached to the
> >dress? By pins? Or were they sewn-on?
> > http://vieuxchamps.com/persona/enlarged/wg/wpic7.php
Astrida replies:
> Current scholarship is that they aren't a separate accessory at all--
> they're the vestigial lo
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>Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:45 PM
>To: h-costume
>Subject: [h-cost] tippets
>
>Hi,
>
> does someone know how the tippets used to be attached to the
>dress
Hi,
does someone know how the tippets used to be attached to the dress? By pins?
Or were they sewn-on?
http://vieuxchamps.com/persona/enlarged/wg/wpic7.php
Thanks,
Zuzana
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, March 13, 2006 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...
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From: "Robin Netherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Elijah & the Widow of Zarapeth -- dig the sleeves
http://www.wga.hu/art/m/master/zunk_fl/16_paint/1/04adora2.jpg
I think she&#
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From: "Robin Netherton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Elijah & the Widow of Zarapeth -- dig the sleeves
http://www.wga.hu/art/m/master/zunk_fl/16_paint/1/04adora2.jpg
I think she's pretty realistic. I've seen those sleeves elsewhere. I think
I saw this one in person, or one m
I was just going through some stacked-up e-mail -- I tend to catch up in
fits and spurts, so sometimes miss things. Plus I have dial-up, so
anything that requires lots of image-heavy downloads gets set aside till I
have *time*.
Anyway, Susan posted lots of picture links. I haven't looked at all o
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Actually the owner of Calontir trim and I was reminded that it was someone
else who made it for him.
Drix. Hmmm. Could have been Joel, I guess.
Jerusha
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Susan Farmer
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Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Bi
Actually the owner of Calontir trim and I was reminded that it was someone
else who made it for him.
De
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> And thinking of multi- colours, this reminded me of someone I know who
made
> a man's Landsknecht in various Hawaiian print fabric. Bright colors too.
>
Sounds like
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
For balance? Mainly I don't want a post reveler getting dizzy and hurling
more colour onto it. :P
snicker. probably a good thought.
And thinking of multi- colours, this reminded me of someone I know who made
a man's Landsknecht in various Hawaiian print
For balance? Mainly I don't want a post reveler getting dizzy and hurling
more colour onto it. :P
And thinking of multi- colours, this reminded me of someone I know who made
a man's Landsknecht in various Hawaiian print fabric. Bright colors too.
De
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um, why stop at 4?
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I guess they could be buttons but the top of the red seems to be wider then
the other panels and it almost looks like there are dots on the other side
of the red at the bust. I was thinking that it was similar in treatment to
the birth of the virgin dress wit
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I guess they could be buttons but the top of the red seems to be wider then
the other panels and it almost looks like there are dots on the other side
of the red at the bust. I was thinking that it was similar in treatment to
the birth of the virgin dress wit
I guess they could be buttons but the top of the red seems to be wider then
the other panels and it almost looks like there are dots on the other side
of the red at the bust. I was thinking that it was similar in treatment to
the birth of the virgin dress with the gold whatchamagiggers running down
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I'm not sure I understand the tree. Is the woman standing the matriarch of
the family and the couple sitting at the bottom of the drawing brother and
sister or are they the parents and the woman standing the featured
descendent?
The tree? *giggle* I've ne
I'm not sure I understand the tree. Is the woman standing the matriarch of
the family and the couple sitting at the bottom of the drawing brother and
sister or are they the parents and the woman standing the featured
descendent?
Not as wild as the Swabian.
I like the blue dress on the woman just ab
Quoting Chiara Francesca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
http://www.imagesonline.bl.uk/britishlibrary-store/Components/34/3463_2.jpg
This on has long been my favorite. I have been sketching and
searching and sketching these dresses for years hoping to find the
right event to make one for. Sigh, and the
!!! :)
Chiara
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From: "Susan B. Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I h
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I hadn't thought of gores but I think you may be on to something here. This
would solve some peoples problems with not having enough fabric of one
color. :)
It would be a hoot to do -- and you could carry that picture around with
you and say -- "see! here
I hadn't thought of gores but I think you may be on to something here. This
would solve some peoples problems with not having enough fabric of one
color. :)
I thought that the dress has a front panel because of the white dots running
down the "seam".
I haven't seen the weird flemish stuff. Got pict
Quoting otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg
(Susan) these women are spectators, so I don't know how much the Special
Garb
rule applies here, but .
The Italian GFD frequently has this sort of "inver
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http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg
(Susan) these women are spectators, so I don't know how much the Special
Garb
rule applies here, but .
The Italian GFD frequently has this sort of "inverted scoop" neckline --
I'm not exactly s
And while we're talking Italian Tippets . :-)
I've got another picture for you, Robin. I just had to get it scanned
-- and now seemed like a good time to do it!
http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg
these women are spectators, so I don't know how muc
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To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] tippets ... Fwd: [SCA-Garb] Nice gown! (Italian
fresco)
Quoting Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I looked at the images and don't know what &q
Quoting Becky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I looked at the images and don't know what "tippets" are. Please
explain. I googled it and found sites with shawls and scarves. What
in the image is a tippet?
See those "streamers" coming from her upper arm? Those are tippets.
If you do a google *image* sea
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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: [h-cost] tippets ... Fwd: [SCA-Garb] Nice gown! (Italian fresco)
Hey Robin!
From the SCA garb list ...
Can I forward this to the H-Costume list where
Robin Netherton hangs out? She's way interested
in tippets.
J
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, michaela wrote:
> http://www.microlanitalia.com/exe/turismoimg.htm?t=4&k1=6&k2=1
>
> > The lady here has a crown, which is one of CofA's attributes, but there's
> > no sword or wheel, so it remains uncertain.
>
> Actually there is a wheel, at her feet (between her and the
http://www.microlanitalia.com/exe/turismoimg.htm?t=4&k1=6&k2=1
> The lady here has a crown, which is one of CofA's attributes, but there's
> no sword or wheel, so it remains uncertain.
Actually there is a wheel, at her feet (between her and the Madonna) it's
that brown object with the spikes;)
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Susan Farmer wrote:
> Hey Robin!
Thanks for thinking of me!
> A fresco on the wall of the hexagonal baptistery of San Giovanni
> Battista (said to be originally ninth-cent., with fifteenth- and
> sixteenth-century frescoes) showing the marriage of St. Catherine of
> Sienna
Hey Robin!
>From the SCA garb list ...
> Can I forward this to the H-Costume list where
> Robin Netherton hangs out? She's way interested
> in tippets.
> Jerusha
Sure. Please tell her it was pointed out by John Dillion on the Medieval
Religion List. I'm sure she'll recognise his name.
Hrothny
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005, Jean Waddie wrote:
> I recently had to straighten out a confusion, because Early Medieval
> (Viking/Saxon/Norman) re-enactors generally use the word wimple for a
> single piece headcovering that wraps and drapes round head and
> shoulders, while 14th/15th century types use it
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To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tippets
>I have found very little info so far on tippets and how they were made.
I have encountered things called tippets in several different
ently paired with a veil. ;o)
--sue
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From: "Carolyn Kayta Barrows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tippets
>
> >I have found very
I have found very little info so far on tippets and how they were made.
I have encountered things called tippets in several different centuries. I
had to read a couple of sentences to realize you were talking SCA-period
tippets, instead of, say, Georgian ones.
CarolynKayta Barrows
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, A & J Garden wrote:
> Have you read about tippets at
> http://www.regencygarderobe.com/Monthly%20QA%20Pages/Tippets.htm ?
:-) Different period, completely different clothing item from the 14th c.
detail the original poster asked about.
However, the fact that the word "tippe
thing & Textiles" ?
Dame Catriona MacDuff / Monica Spence
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Behalf Of Robin Netherton
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:18 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tippets
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Kahlara wrot
Thanks! I'll check it out.
Catriona/Monica
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Robin Netherton
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:22 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Tippets
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, monica spence wrote:
>
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, monica spence wrote:
> How does one go about subscribing to "Medieval Clothing & Textiles" ?
It's an annual journal published in book form. It's assumed that most
subscribers will be libraries that will want to assemble a complete set,
though I suppose that there would be som
ostume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tippets
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Kahlara wrote:
> I have found very little info so far on tippets and how they were
> made.
As Mari noted, tippets are an interest of mine, and I have put essentially
everything I know about them into an article that appeared in
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, otsisto wrote:
> Is it possible that since sleeves were seamed on the sides and usually
> not underneath that the sleeve seams are open from wrist to lower
> bicep. Top of forearm sleeve is removed leaving the lower forearm
> sleeve.
Opening a long sleeve halfway up is one of
Is it possible that since sleeves were seamed on the sides and usually not
underneath that the sleeve seams are open from wrist to lower bicep. Top of
forearm sleeve is removed leaving the lower forearm sleeve. Role once
leaving the lining exposed?
De
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Kahlara wrote:
> I have found very little info so far on tippets and how they were
> made.
As Mari noted, tippets are an interest of mine, and I have put essentially
everything I know about them into an article that appeared in the first
volume of _Medieval Clothing & Textile
Robin Netherton has written quite an explanation of tippets. The
article is in the first Journal of Medieval Clothing and Textiles.
Information there may help you in your efforts to produce your own.
The article is scholarly, and not a how-to-make type.
Of course... you might have already read i
I have found very little info so far on tippets and how they were made. A
couple of sources I found said it was a strip of white linen tied above the
elbow. Others said it was sewn on.
Yet other things I have seen and read make it seem like a scaled down version
of the wide belled sleeves and
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