Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-05 Thread Caryn Sobel
Thanks, Sue. It sounds like it may be a combination of all the factors mentioned; changes in plant populations, methods, *and* technology. I just gave in lately to needing a magnifier for embroidery, so after the ego thing passed, I am ready to try finer threads than I have used in years :)

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-05 Thread Sue Clemenger
would have tried it by hand by now. I'm learning to spin linen, but I'm lightyears away from being that skilled! --Sue in Montana - Original Message - From: "Caryn Sobel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: W

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-05 Thread Caryn Sobel
Thanks, Lauren, Bjarne, and Denise B, for the explanation about the flax. What a shame, but understandable from a small farmer's viewpoint (I won't think about agribusiness causing this). All the more reason to enjoy old examples of this beautiful work. Caryn __

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Land of Oz
I've been told two different but related things on this: either the varieties of flax plants as now grown don't produce such fine fibers or that the processing as now done doesn't allow for serfs to hand-sort the fibers to gather all the finest ones up for the spinning and weaving of such

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] white embroidery Please pardon my ignorance, but why can't we have the same fineness now? Is it a difference in the spinning techniques

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Lauren Walker
I've been told two different but related things on this: either the varieties of flax plants as now grown don't produce such fine fibers or that the processing as now done doesn't allow for serfs to hand-sort the fibers to gather all the finest ones up for the spinning and weaving of such

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Caryn Sobel
Please pardon my ignorance, but why can't we have the same fineness now? Is it a difference in the spinning techniques, or the variety of the plant itself? Or a lack of demand for finer thread? Thanks! Caryn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costum

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery/thread numbers

2006-10-04 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
aving chenille as a gimp. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Betsy Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] white embroidery This might be a go

RE: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Betsy Marshall
04, 2006 8:07 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] white embroidery Hi, For such fine laces you need a thread of the size 250- 350. The thinnest you can get these days is 140, wich would be almost doubble as thick as required. All the worlds lacemakers who makes the old laces, needs to

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 4:06 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] white embroidery Just out of curiosity, why can't you get flax lace anymore? Is the thread not available, or is no one making it? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Sue Clemenger
L PROTECTED]> To: "'Historical Costume'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:06 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] white embroidery > Just out of curiosity, why can't you get flax lace anymore? Is the thread > not available, or is no one maki

RE: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
bject: Re: [h-cost] white embroidery Dear Ruth, Oh i must say that i really dont know. But i would say that it was not the case. My guess is they just picked up a lace for the pillow after it was embroidered. But you must remember they had many different design laces to choose from, in Denm

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-04 Thread Sharon Nevin
Hi, The pillowcase is absolutely lovely, thank you for sharing. Distilled water is the best water to use for washing old textiles but I also would reccomend first talking to a conservator who deals with this sort of work at a museum to see what they would suggest. Sharon

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
CTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] white embroidery The embroidery is exquisite, and I'm thrilled by the way the lace perfectly complements the embroidered motifs. Do you know, would the desig

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Ruth Anne Baumgartner
The embroidery is exquisite, and I'm thrilled by the way the lace perfectly complements the embroidered motifs. Do you know, would the designer of the embroidery have purposely set out to achieve this effect? --that is, did the selection of the lace precede the designing of the pillowcase? I kn

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Susan Data-Samtak
What a delight! Thanks for posting, Bjarne. Susan "Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel too fast and you miss all you are traveling for".  - "Ride the Dark Trail" by Louis L'Amour On Oct 3, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: Hi, As i promissed yeste

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
Thank you *so* much for sharing! The pillow is exquisite. ailith - Original Message - From: "Bjarne og Leif Drews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: [h-cost] white embroidery Hi, As i promissed yest

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 15:22 03/10/2006, you wrote: Hi, As i promissed yesterday, i wanted to let you se the wonderfull 18th century pillow case i got as a gift: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/pillowcase.htm It needs washing, but ill waite a little with this. Thoaght about using destilled water, and soap flakes

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Voncile W. Dudley
It is beautiful! I would wash with liquid specifcally for delicate in cold water. Definitely use a towel and iron from the back. Just be sure everything is smooth before you put the iron to it. Good Luck! Lady Von Bjarne og Leif Drews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, As i promissed yesterd

Re: [h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread AlbertCat
Beautiful! If you frame it...you might want to shadow box it on a pillow. Not a big fluffy pillow but a relatively flat one, in off white so the embroidery pops and is visible. I just saw an example of the apparently lost art of Hollie Point. Whoa! Amazing! __

[h-cost] white embroidery

2006-10-03 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, As i promissed yesterday, i wanted to let you se the wonderfull 18th century pillow case i got as a gift: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/pillowcase.htm It needs washing, but ill waite a little with this. Thoaght about using destilled water, and soap flakes. How about ironing after the was