Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-16 Thread MaggiRos
--- Marie Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Widows would usually wear mourning until a second > marriage, or for the > rest of their lives. One way that a widow could > signal a willingness > to marry was to put off the black. Although it was > socially expected > that even a young woman wo

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Regina Voorhes
(Hi, Kass!) I don't know, lots of the REST of the Irish garments we see in period art are a lot old. I think the wimple is just a wimple, though maybe you would be more likely to see an old widow-lady wearing one. The Chief's wife in Derrick's Banquet is wearing a wimple. They are still wearing

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Kass McGann
Friday, May 09, 2008 12:11 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe I'm wondering if there is a Roman-Catholic / Gallic link... On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Kass McGann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ireland tended to be about 50 years behind the

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Marie Stewart
http://kass-rants.livejournal.com > http://www.reconstructinghistory.blogspot.com/ > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Marie Stewart > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:42 AM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost]

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Kass McGann
They never expire! http://reconstructinghistory.com http://community.livejournal.com/rh_community/ http://kass-rants.livejournal.com http://www.reconstructinghistory.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marie Stewart Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:42 A

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Marie Stewart
Hm that's interesting. > The white pleated wimple (like in this portrait) was worn in Ireland by > widows in the 16th century. > > Kass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Kass McGann
L PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marie Stewart Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:57 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe Here is the portrait of Mary in the French White Mourning veil. Note that she is wearing a simple

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Marie Stewart
Here is the portrait of Mary in the French White Mourning veil. Note that she is wearing a simple French cut gown in black? beneath it. Mari http://www.nationalgalleries.org/media_collection/6/PG%20186.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-09 Thread Kate M Bunting
Jane wrote: >A question has come up on another list about mourning colors in Europe during >the Renaissance. Black was >obviously worn for fashion, not necessarily mourning. Some sources say that >white was worn for mourning in > France. What say you? I only know that there's a famous portra

Re: [h-cost] Mourning in Renaissance Europe

2008-05-08 Thread Marie Stewart
In the 16th century I can tell you this much. Black was worn for initial mourning, the first year or two, and is associated with "deepest mourning". A cap of linen with a pleated veil was typical in France, and that would usually be white. Deepest mourning was typically depicted by all black, the