Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-10 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:44:59PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > Aviram has three excellent lecture ideas for Haifux. Please let me > know, on or off list, which you prefer. > > The three possibilities are: > > - Wireless (in)security and war driving > - Setting up a SPAM filtering system (MU

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-09 Thread Kohn Emil Dan
Even more interesting was the message "from" Orr praizing UML so religiously. When I first read that message I was in total shock. What!? Orr involved in a large project using UML!? Isn't Orr the crpthography guy!? Doesn't he have a thesis to work on!? Where did that sudden love to UML come from

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-09 Thread Orr Dunkelman
As I said before, I currently have problems with the moderation of haifux.org. It should be fixed in the following weeks. On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003, Orr Dunkelman wrote about "[Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from > Aviram Jenik": > >

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003, Orr Dunkelman wrote about "[Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik": > - Aviram Orr, is there any way in which you could approve messages to this list without replacing the "From" to be yourself? Or perhaps at least add one line saying somethi

[Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Hi, On Sunday 08 June 2003 14:55, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:22:36PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote: > > Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > >The three possibilities are: > > > > > >- Wireless (in)security and war driving > > Wireless networks (in)security. Obviously, it's much harder t

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Alon Altman
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 05:54:17PM +0300, Alon Altman wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Adir Abraham wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spa

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 05:54:17PM +0300, Alon Altman wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Adir Abraham wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spam > > > filtering first, securing wireless networks, and th

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Orna Agmon
My order is (1- most wanted): 1.Full disclosure 2.SPAM 3.Wireless but I will be looking forward to hearing anything by Aviram:) On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:22:36PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote: > > > Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > > > >The three possibili

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Adir Abraham wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spam > > filtering first, securing wireless networks, and then last the full > > disclosure issue. > > This is exactly my same prefernce.

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Alon Altman
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Adir Abraham wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spam > > filtering first, securing wireless networks, and then last the full > > disclosure issue. > I can give a lecture on Spam Filt

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Adir Abraham
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote: > Hi, > > as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spam > filtering first, securing wireless networks, and then last the full > disclosure issue. This is exactly my same prefernce. ---

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 03:15:18PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote: > as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spam > filtering first, securing wireless networks, and then last the full > disclosure issue. Ok, noted. If just you and me vote, I get to choose :-) (actually, Aviram

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Eli Billauer
Hi, as opposed to Muli, my preferences are in the reverse order: Spam filtering first, securing wireless networks, and then last the full disclosure issue. I think that after three lectures about cracking and auditing, most of us have gotten the picture. Now as for this: Wireless networks (i

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:22:36PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote: > Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > >The three possibilities are: > > > >- Wireless (in)security and war driving Wireless networks (in)security. Obviously, it's much harder to secure a wireless network - you don't need physical access to jo

Re: [Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Eli Billauer
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: The three possibilities are: - Wireless (in)security and war driving - Setting up a SPAM filtering system (MUA independent) - Full disclosure (non technical) I'm afraid I can't figure out what to expect from either of these lectures. Could you please say a few words ab

[Haifux] RFC: lecture ideas from Aviram Jenik

2003-06-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Aviram has three excellent lecture ideas for Haifux. Please let me know, on or off list, which you prefer. The three possibilities are: - Wireless (in)security and war driving - Setting up a SPAM filtering system (MUA independent) - Full disclosure (non technical) Personally, my preference is