[Hampshire] November BaB at Red Hat

2010-10-05 Thread Dominic Cleal
Hi all, Next month, we're going to host a joint Surrey/Hants Bring-a-Box meeting here at Red Hat in Farnborough. It'll be on Saturday 13th November from 11-5, everybody welcome. We'll be in the training facilities, so will have the use of some PCs to install onto if needed, plus a projector for

[Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread Tim
Sorry if I have asked this question before, but I am still beating my head against the wall with it. I have Ubuntu server 10.04 with xfce desktop. I have a small script (in fact there are 5 but more of that in a minute) that runs an rsync command for backup purposes, if I run this script from

Re: [Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread Vic
So my first question is, where should these 5 scripts reside (they currently live in a folder called backup in the root of the file sytem) Wherever you like. Just make sure you tell cron the full pathname to the script = ./day1 is unlikely to work, because that means the day1 script in the

Re: [Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread John Cooper
On 05/10/10 18:25, Vic wrote: So my first question is, where should these 5 scripts reside (they currently live in a folder called backup in the root of the file sytem) Wherever you like. Just make sure you tell cron the full pathname to the script = ./day1 is unlikely to work, because that

[Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

2010-10-05 Thread Chris Dennis
Hmmm, is this a problem? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831 Where does the right to privacy meet the need to investigate (alleged) crimes? If a man is innocent until proven guilty, should he be convicted for an act that may or may not be hiding evidence of wrong-doing? cheers

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

2010-10-05 Thread Samuel Penn
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 18:58:59 Chris Dennis wrote: Hmmm, is this a problem? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831 Where does the right to privacy meet the need to investigate (alleged) crimes? If a man is innocent until proven guilty, should he be convicted for an act

Re: [Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread Stuart Sears
On 05/10/10 18:49, John Cooper wrote: On 05/10/10 18:25, Vic wrote: [snip excellent advice] How do I get cron to run them and where do I find any logs files that may point to what is going wrong? show us the output of crontab -l as the user who owns these scripts? plus ls -l

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

2010-10-05 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 05/10/10 19:05, Samuel Penn wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2010 18:58:59 Chris Dennis wrote: Hmmm, is this a problem? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11479831 Where does the right to privacy meet the need to investigate (alleged) crimes? If a man is innocent until proven

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

2010-10-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Sean, On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:26:03PM +0100, Sean Gibbins wrote: Interesting point: what if I hand over the password and it doesn't work: oh dear, I must have forgotten it officer! Is it therefore technically illegal to password protect a system and not keep a copy of the password

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

2010-10-05 Thread Vic
Hmmm, is this a problem? Oh yes. And it's worse that this example, to boot :-( Where does the right to privacy meet the need to investigate (alleged) crimes? There is no longer a right to privacy. RIPA 2000 allows a Section 49 notice to be issued by any person with the appropriate

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Man jailed over computer password refusal

2010-10-05 Thread Vic
The law pertains to data you have encrypted yourself No, that's not the case. Section 49 notices can be issued against anyone believed to be in possession of the keys to any secured data. Believed is probably the word I have the most trouble with... Vic. -- Please post to:

Re: [Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread Tim
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 19:15:06 Stuart Sears wrote: On 05/10/10 18:49, John Cooper wrote: On 05/10/10 18:25, Vic wrote: [snip excellent advice] How do I get cron to run them and where do I find any logs files that may point to what is going wrong? show us the output of crontab

Re: [Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread Martin Elliott
The output of 'the ps ax | grep crond' is just showing you the grep command running, and not the actual cron daemon. I'm sure I've seen some systems where cron is not running as a daemon, but I may be wrong, and this may have been a very long time ago... But if you're getting emails about cron,

Re: [Hampshire] Cron script problem

2010-10-05 Thread Martin Elliott
Please also bear in mind that running the script from the /backup directory itself - with ./day1.sh - may yeild different results than running it from another working directory with /backup/day1.sh You may want to adjust your script to cd to whatever working directory you want the script to use,