Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Roger, What I've written is not about any specific project, and I agree with you entirely on just about everything. I know too little about the project(s) in which you have an interest to be able to comment in detail. I do think it's tragic that we're increasingly wasting good land rather

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:52:44 + Gordon Scott wrote: Hello Gordon, >On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 16:52 +, Brad Rogers wrote: >> the NIMBY brigade. >Don't get me started :-) Too late, obviously. :-) >I'm not in any way anti renewables, though I think they should perhaps >focus a little more

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
Gordon, Those 15000 houses could be zero carbon or even carbon positive using existing technology. They could capture rainwater and recycle wastewater so that the running costs would be practically zero. They could all have large cellars to maximise the footprint. But they probably wont, they

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
Gordon, You may be interested to know that the bee hives went in just after the last panel was installed. The advantage of community ownership is that people are prepared to spend the extra to maintain and develop he environment and the profit stays in the community. Even if the climate chan

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Brad, On Thu, 2015-11-12 at 16:52 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > the NIMBY brigade. Don't get me started :-) I can't now remember who it was, who said "Sure I worry about my back yard ... nobody else is going worry about it!" It's notable that NIMBYs are always other people objecting to things

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Roger, I hadn't meant my comments to apply to any particular instance and I'm pleased that the Lymington one appears sensible. In my area, though, there are a number built on prime agricultural land. Of course the land isn't actually destroyed, so could be returned to agriculture if necessary,

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:45:41 + Gordon Scott wrote: Hello Gordon, >Obviously others will have different views. HSE probably has a fair bit to say about it, I'm sure. Also, don't forget the "power of the people"; Urban areas seem to be well organised when it comes to the NIMBY brigade. As

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
There is a clever piece of software which I believe originated in Sweden that can calculate roofspace, elevation and shadow from trees from 3D surveys and hence solar potential. Southampton University have done this survey and conclude that 40% of the city's electricity could be supplied by sola

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Hi Brad, I should of course have said "allow" rather than "put". You don't mention the _real_ reason why people want to put them in green spaces, which is that they get large subsidies for feed-in, rather than having to manage the land that's lost to agriculture or wildlife. I can see cost being

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:04:07 + Gordon Scott wrote: Hello Gordon, >Why oh why do they so often put them in green spaces? It's ridiculous. Access, cost and safety, to name but three. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately a

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Gordon Scott
Whilst I approve of PV in principle, I do wish they'd put them in places that aren't additionally intrusive into the environment. Put them over supermarket and other car parks, giving shade to the cars as well. Factory, supermarket and shopping-centre roofs, bus shelters, railway station roofs, et

Re: [Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 12 November 2015 14:32:05 Roger Munford wrote: > Thanks for your indulgence It wont happen again. I'm delighted that you have told us. Sorry everybody! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL:

[Hampshire] New Forest Solar

2015-11-12 Thread Roger Munford
I apologies for troubling you with the same off topic subject in a month but there was some interest last time and it will all be coming to an end shortly. First there is an opportunity to visit the community owned solar farm at Lymington on Saturday morning. Second there is the opportunity