Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-12 Thread Jacqui Caren
Isaac Close wrote: But then there is always the 'power users' who demand 'the best' and 'latest' bug ridden redmond detritus to slow down their 'dual-quad-core-extreme' multi-terrabyte 'man-hood' extensions. I know a few peeps who download such things for work. Their employers (or

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall - Windows 7 Beta

2009-01-12 Thread Stephen Davies
Cue Job adverts asking for Mandatory 2 years experience in Windows 7. :-) Stephen D -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-12 Thread Isaac Close
--- On Mon, 12/1/09, Jacqui Caren jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote: From: Jacqui Caren jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com Isaac Close wrote: But then there is always the 'power users' who demand 'the best' and 'latest' bug ridden redmond detritus to slow down their 'dual-quad-core-extreme'

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-12 Thread Jacqui Caren
Isaac Close wrote: These days i use many different systems and they all have ups and downs, sometimes windows is the best tool for the job, depending on the environment. Heresy! :-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-12 Thread Jacqui Caren
Isaac Close wrote: These days i use many different systems and they all have ups and downs, sometimes windows is the best tool for the job, depending on the environment. Heresy! :-) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-12 Thread Hugo Mills
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:02:36PM +, Jacqui Caren wrote: Isaac Close wrote: These days i use many different systems and they all have ups and downs, sometimes windows is the best tool for the job, depending on the environment. Heresy! :-) More likely to be hearsay.

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-12 Thread Phillip Chandler
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 21:05 +, Hugo Mills wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 09:02:36PM +, Jacqui Caren wrote: Isaac Close wrote: These days i use many different systems and they all have ups and downs, sometimes windows is the best tool for the job, depending on the environment.

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-11 Thread Phillip Chandler
On Sun, 2009-01-11 at 09:59 +, Isaac Close wrote: The BBC are reporting that the law requiring all ISPs to keep a copy of the headers of all emails passing through their email servers is being : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm snip Presumably the terrorists,

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-11 Thread Isaac Close
--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Damian Brasher l...@interlinux.co.uk wrote: From: Damian Brasher l...@interlinux.co.uk Subject: Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: Sunday, 11 January, 2009, 12:48 PM Isaac Close wrote

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-11 Thread Isaac Close
--- On Sun, 11/1/09, Phillip Chandler phillip.chand...@ntlworld.com wrote: Maybe they love high unemployment and a high cost of living. It means we are all too busy working, trying to make a living, so therefore we are segregated and more controlable, and not getting up to organising

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-10 Thread Damian Brasher
Chris. Aubrey-Smith wrote: Victor !Vi wrote: Vic even:) Some time back in the '60s, I attended my first Systems Analysis course. Day 1: 1) Are you going to be able to manage the volumes of data you will be collecting? 2) Are you sure that you need it? 3) What are you going to do with

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-10 Thread Tony Whitmore
Sean Gibbins wrote: The BBC are reporting that the law requiring all ISPs to keep a copy of the headers of all emails passing through their email servers is being : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm snip Presumably the terrorists, paedophiles and organised criminals won't know this

[Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-09 Thread Sean Gibbins
The BBC are reporting that the law requiring all ISPs to keep a copy of the headers of all emails passing through their email servers is being : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm Apparently 'small ISPs' are exempt, along with, presumably, private individuals. Presumably the terrorists,

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-09 Thread Rob Malpass
- Original Message - From: Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall The BBC are reporting that the law requiring all ISPs to keep

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-09 Thread Richard Danter
2009/1/9 Rob Malpass l...@getiton.myzen.co.uk: - Original Message - From: Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall The BBC

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-09 Thread Phillip Chandler
Of course most people won't bother and the gov will be very successful in helping husbands and wives find out if their other halves are cheating on them. Anyone doing anything seriously illegal will work around the problem as they already do. Result: Everyone loses their freedom for very

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-09 Thread Damian Brasher
Vi wrote: Whether the rush to surveillance is part of some evil Government plot, or simply a bunch of people with no idea how to solve an essentially unsolvable problem (but lacking the courage to say so) is unclear. The vast amount of information collected will be fairly meaningless and take

Re: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall

2009-01-09 Thread Chris. Aubrey-Smith
2009/1/9 Damian Brasher l...@interlinux.co.uk Apols, corrections... Victor !Vi wrote: Whether the rush to surveillance is part of some evil Government plot, or simply a bunch of people with no idea how to solve an essentially unsolvable problem (but lacking the courage to say so) is