Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
You don't say which port the internet router is connected to. Plug a laptop into port 5 and see what that can ping if you give it a static ip address of 10.1.201.10/24 It should be able to ping .1 and .2 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Swann
The internet router is in port 1, the laptop is in port 5. I have now set the router port as a trunk on the switch. Port 5 is on a different subnet to port 1, the laptop is 10.1.202.0 and the router 10.1.201.0 I set the static addresses of the laptop as follows: ip: 10.1.202.10 subnet:

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Wayne Lee
Morning The internet router is in port 1, the laptop is in port 5. I have now set the router port as a trunk on the switch. Port 5 is on a different subnet to port 1, the laptop is 10.1.202.0 and the router 10.1.201.0 I set the static addresses of the laptop as follows: ip: 10.1.202.10

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Swann
That is excellent Wayne, thank you very much. I will test this configuration later on today. The DLINK router is very dumb and doesn't support VLANs or anything fancy like that. However, this is a mock set-up I have running in my office; I know the router in the actual network - who's name I

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Wayne Lee
That is excellent Wayne, thank you very much. Your welcome I will test this configuration later on today. The DLINK router is very dumb and doesn't support VLANs or anything fancy like that. However, this is a mock set-up I have running in my office; I know the router in the actual

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
See inline On Dec 23, 2011 8:50 AM, Steven Swann swannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: The internet router is in port 1, the laptop is in port 5. I have now set the router port as a trunk on the switch. Port 5 is on a different subnet to port 1, the laptop is 10.1.202.0 and the router 10.1.201.0

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Swann
Vyatta looks very interesting, unfortunately I will not have time to test until after Christmas now, but it is certainly something I will be looking at :) On 12/23/2011 09:24 AM, Wayne Lee wrote: That is excellent Wayne, thank you very much. Your welcome I will test this configuration

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Swann
Apologies, yes, you are right, I meant that 6 is on a different subnet. But if I'm on the same subnet I can ping the the router without problem and I have internet access. On 12/23/2011 09:27 AM, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: See inline On Dec 23, 2011 8:50 AM, Steven Swann

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
I think i will stop trying to help. If Steven tries to follow two peoples advice at the same time it is not going to work. My fix is based on there being no trunk ports. Wayne's uses trunk ports and i don't think it will work because the internet router do not do vlans. On Dec 23, 2011 9:17 AM,

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On Dec 23, 2011 9:32 AM, Steven Swann swannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: Apologies, yes, you are right, I meant that 6 is on a different subnet. But if I'm on the same subnet I can ping the the router without problem and I have internet access. So if you can ping the internet from port 5, you

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Swann
Hello again James, I really appreciate your help, as I stand at the moment I have no working configuration that does what I want it to. On my test router that is sitting on my desk, VLANs are not supported, but the router that is live does have VLAN support. However, this live router is a

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Wayne Lee
It would also be ideal If i could get routing working on the switch, since I will, eventually, use this switch to route between a number of VLANs in this building, and so, although the temporal effect is probably negligible, it seems it would be a better candidate to route between VLANs in

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-23 Thread Steven Swann
You are exactly right! I connected another machine to the router and pinged it from a host connected to port 6, fired up wireshark and there were the ping requests. Unfortunately, my test route is so dumb that I can't even define routes. So i guess that it can never be aware of the subnet on

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-22 Thread Steven Swann
Hello Again, Apologies for the delay with this, work is extremely busy with the lead up to Christmas. As yet, I am unable to ping the router (10.1.201.1), it just seems to hang, but at least it is not giving me the 'network is unreachable' message. I am, however, able to ping 10.1.201.2,

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Lee
Hello Large snip I tried that to no avail... I will have a play with it again at work tomorrow and see how it goes. I'll let you know how successful I am. Cheers for all your help guys :) Steven The normal way to achieve this is to make one of the ports a trunk port and connect this to

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-21 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 20 December 2011 22:57, Steven Swann swannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 06:08 PM, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 20 December 2011 17:30, Steven Swannswannonl...@googlemail.com  wrote: Oh, if all you need is 12 right now, just search the manual for default route. Point the

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-21 Thread Steven Swann
I was hoping to do this today, but I didn't get the time. I will try again tomorrow and post the results. Cheers guys! On 12/21/2011 05:36 PM, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 20 December 2011 22:57, Steven Swannswannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: On 12/20/2011 06:08 PM, James Courtier-Dutton

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-21 Thread Steven Swann
On 12/21/2011 05:24 PM, Wayne Lee wrote: Hello Large snip I tried that to no avail... I will have a play with it again at work tomorrow and see how it goes. I'll let you know how successful I am. Cheers for all your help guys :) Steven The normal way to achieve this is to make one of the

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread Chris Malton
Hi Steven, The problem is in what you're trying to do: Route with a switch. There's a couple of ways to fix it. If they're all in the same subnet, then you can usually* cheat somewhat by putting ports in both the internet and user or internet and dev groups, but it's the wrong way to do it,

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Swann
Hello Chris, Thank you for getting back to me. I should have mentioned that the switches are intelligent switches with routing functionality switched on. I have given each of the VLANs a different subnet address. What I am actually trying to do is seperate the users and the developers buy

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread Chris Malton
Hi Steven, Are you able to share a model number or a link to the manual with us? I'd be lost without the manual for the Netgear ones. I'll try and take a look tonight if I get time (got IPsec issues of my own to sort out!). Chris On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:59:40 +, Steven Swann wrote:

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 20 December 2011 14:17, Steven Swann swannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello all, Does anybody here have any experience in setting up VLANs on a HP ProCurve switch? I am able to set up three different VLANs, one for internet, one for users and one for development. The problem is that I

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Swann
The user manuals can be found here: http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManuallang=encc=usdocIndexId=64179taskId=125prodTypeId=12883prodSeriesId=329892 There are actually about 5 different manuals for each switch, getting started, advance

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread Vic
NB: All of the following might be wrong, as it's a while since I set up a ProCurve. I am able to set up three different VLANs, one for internet, one for users and one for development. The problem is that I want to allow both the users and developers access to the internet VLAN since this is

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 20 December 2011 16:06, Steven Swann swannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: The user manuals can be found here: http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?contentType=SupportManuallang=encc=usdocIndexId=64179taskId=125prodTypeId=12883prodSeriesId=329892 There are

Re: [Hampshire] HP ProCurve switch, VLAN configuration.

2011-12-20 Thread Steven Swann
On 12/20/2011 06:08 PM, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 20 December 2011 17:30, Steven Swannswannonl...@googlemail.com wrote: Notes below, thanks again for the response... HLUG is much better than the HP support forum :) On 12/20/2011 05:15 PM, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 20 December