[Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
How about moving the next OpenVistA conference to New Orleans? 1. It would be a bold stroke, but not necessarily foolhardy. 2. We could benefit from VistA's recent successes during Katrina at the VA and in shelters. 3. There are opportunities in the need for new infrastructure throughout the

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread Chris Richardson
Papa Z. You may have a point here. I am sure that the VA would let us have the first floor of their building near the dome. It is just all of those extension cords to being in our own power and the 100 miles of CAT 5 cabel that would be required that might be a problem. New Orleans will be

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
The FIRST floor? On Oct 8, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Chris Richardson wrote: Papa Z. You may have a point here. I am sure that the VA would let us have the first floor of their building near the dome. It is just all of those extension cords to being in our own power and the 100 miles of CAT

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Oct 8, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Chris Richardson wrote: Papa Z. You may have a point here. I am sure that the VA would let us have the first floor of their building near the dome. It is just all of those extension cords to being in our own power and the 100 miles of CAT 5 cabel that

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread Chris Richardson
Yes, the one that was under water. They aren't using it. Get the drift??? - Original Message - From: Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread peterbodtke
I did not take notes, but here are the highlights (from memory.) There were two main topics of discussion: - VistA Community Meeting Q1 2006 - interfacing with VistA COMMUNITYMEETING The next Community Meeting is tentatively scheduled for Jan. 27-29 (Fri - Sun) Washington DC area.

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
You mean, like flotsam? On Oct 8, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Chris Richardson wrote: Yes, the one that was under water. They aren't using it. Get the drift??? - Original Message - From: Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, October

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Thanks Peter, I wasn't able to join the conference. This was very helpful. Kevin On 10/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not take notes, but here are the highlights (from memory.) There were two main topics of discussion: - VistA Community Meeting Q1 2006 -

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread John Leo Zimmer
-- Original Message --- From: Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:32:44 -0700 No notes, but I did record it. Somebody want the wave file? I have it as a .ogg file, 15Meg vs 70+Meg in wave. Still a pretty large attachment for email. jlz

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread John Leo Zimmer
The point of the NPR story was that while The city was forced to cancel an estimated $3.5 billion worth of events the hotel / convention / entertainment infrastructure all escaped relatively intact and is (or will soon be) ready to go back to work.

Re: [Hardhats-members] supertypes and sub-types

2005-10-08 Thread Frederick D. S. Marshall
Dear Michael, FileMan version 22 was originally suppsed to include extensible data types, including typing of functions, which would have taken us halfway to real methods. There was discussion of sub- and super-types, but we were going to wait to decide whether to include it in 22 or wait

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread John Leo Zimmer
NOT: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.?storyId=4950554 BUT: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4950554 stupid machines jlz --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free

Re: [Hardhats-members] supertypes and sub-types

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Frederick D. S. Marshall wrote: Dear Michael, FileMan version 22 was originally suppsed to include extensible data types, including typing of functions, which would have taken us halfway to real methods. There was discussion of sub- and super- types, but we

Re: [Hardhats-members] Station Numbers for institutions in VOE

2005-10-08 Thread John Leo Zimmer
How about a more arbitrary number... such as a the $H of christening? It could then be certified and registered with a central repository... Open Forum perhaps? Conflicts resolved by adding a second here or there. That number would remain unique for the next 10,000 years or whatever the lifespan

Re: [Hardhats-members] How about the Big Easy; Let's be bold

2005-10-08 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
As long as there are hotels, and internet access at the conference, then I'm game. Kevin On 10/8/05, John Leo Zimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOT: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.?storyId=4950554 BUT: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4950554 stupid

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Chris Richardson
Papa Z. Nancy has the wave file. What is an .ogg file? What reads it? The Sony compression file on the memory stick is very small, but nobody else has a reader for it. There are other formats and I have a translator that will reduce the size, but I'm not sure of the quality impact. Best

Re: [Hardhats-members] Station Numbers for institutions in VOE

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:30 AM, John Leo Zimmer wrote: How about a more arbitrary number... such as a the $H of christening? It could then be certified and registered with a central repository... Open Forum perhaps? Conflicts resolved by adding a second here or there. That number would remain

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Oct 8, 2005, at 9:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INTERFACING WITH VISTA The second half of the call was a general technical discussion of how to interface with VistA, including HL7, SQLI, ODBC and SQL Server. This topic will continue on the call. Techniques such as SQLI and HL7

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Peter Bodtke
Any chance of converting this file into MP3 format? With a low bit rate I suspect the file size could be reduced significantly. Peter Bodtke -- Original Message --- From: Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 16:32:44 -0700 No notes, but I did record it.

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Oct 8, 2005, at 9:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: INTERFACING WITH VISTA The second half of the call was a general technical discussion of how to interface with VistA, including HL7, SQLI, ODBC and SQL Server. This topic will continue on the call. By the way, why is Vistalink not

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I will put this file on my server so anyone who writes to me can upload it. If there is an easy way to do that conversion with Linux, let me know and I will do it. I am not into MP3s and the like, so I know nothing about it. It is a 61 meg .WAV file now. On Saturday 08 October 2005 01:51

[Hardhats-members] Role of SOAP?

2005-10-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I know this sounds like old news, and I realize SOAP has been reasonably criticized for being excessively chatty, but my sense is that it is gaining momentum, and that CORBA is rapidly becoming the old news of component technology. It would be a shame to simply ignore this method of

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Chris Richardson
Perhaps, but I have a long list of things to do and this is a bit low on the priority list right now. If I can do it, I will. - Original Message - From: Peter Bodtke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread John Leo Zimmer
From: Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy has the wave file. What is an .ogg file? What reads it? The Sony compression file on the memory stick is very small, but nobody else has a reader for it. There are other formats and I have a translator that will reduce the size, but I'm

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I just made an ogg file anyone who writes me can download from my server. On Saturday 08 October 2005 02:50 pm, John Leo Zimmer wrote: From: Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nancy has the wave file. What is an .ogg file? What reads it? The Sony compression file on the memory stick is very

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
It is 17 megs. Is there a way to put it on the wiki? On Saturday 08 October 2005 03:50 pm, Nancy Anthracite wrote: I just made an ogg file anyone who writes me can download from my server. On Saturday 08 October 2005 02:50 pm, John Leo Zimmer wrote: From: Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread John Leo Zimmer
Not yet. Ogg is the wiki's preferred audio format, but ours is not yet configured for it. jlz Look alive, here comes a buzzard. -- Pogo -- Original Message --- From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 15:57:36

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread peterbodtke
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Chris Richardson wrote: Papa Z. Nancy has the wave file. What is an .ogg file? What reads it? The Sony compression file on the memory stick is very small, but nobody else has a reader for it. There are other formats and I have a

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you need a license for the mp3 format, you get sued and then it sucks. Use an ogg vorbis format please and let the mindless ipod drones learn to adjust or get a better music player.

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Ruben Safir
Did everyone forget how to use google? http://www.vorbis.com/setup_windows/ http://www.vorbis.com/software/ On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 13:26, Chris Richardson wrote: Papa Z. Nancy has the wave file. What is an .ogg file? What reads it? The Sony compression file on the memory stick is very

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Dr Molly Cheah
Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you need a license for the mp3 format, you get sued and then it sucks. Use an ogg vorbis format please and let the mindless ipod drones learn to adjust

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you need a license for the mp3 format, you get sued and then it sucks. Use an ogg vorbis format please and let the mindless ipod drones learn to adjust or

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Berman
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you need a license for the mp3 format, you get sued and then it sucks. You need a license if you are making money with

Re: [Hardhats-members] supertypes and sub-types

2005-10-08 Thread Greg Kreis
I second Greg's motion.. it would be a great extension. Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Frederick D. S. Marshall wrote: Dear Michael, FileMan version 22 was originally suppsed to include extensible data types, including typing of functions, which would have taken

Re: [Hardhats-members] Role of SOAP?

2005-10-08 Thread Greg Kreis
What about VistALink? Could it be used to support SOAP? Maybe the latest version or a planned one will? Gregory Woodhouse wrote: I know this sounds like old news, and I realize SOAP has been reasonably criticized for being excessively chatty, but my sense is that it is gaining momentum,

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
OGG supposedly runs in a Windows Media Player for those who only have Windows. On Saturday 08 October 2005 09:30 pm, JohnLeo Zimmer wrote: Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you need a license for the

Re: [Hardhats-members] supertypes and sub-types

2005-10-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Yes, and so would George Timson's enhancements we were shown in Boston. On Saturday 08 October 2005 08:43 pm, Greg Kreis wrote: I second Greg's motion.. it would be a great extension. Gregory Woodhouse wrote: On Oct 8, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Frederick D. S. Marshall wrote: Dear Michael, FileMan

Re: [Hardhats-members] Role of SOAP?

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Berman
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:46 -0400, Greg Kreis wrote: What about VistALink? Could it be used to support SOAP? Maybe the latest version or a planned one will? Not really. My understanding of what VistALink is, is just an implementation of the client end of the RPC broker in Java instead of

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you need a license for the mp3 format, you get sued and then it

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Berman
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 22:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files and podcast it? Molly Because you

[Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging: lets throw out TGA!

2005-10-08 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, I have been working unsuccesfully for a couple days trying to come up with an open source solution for creating TGA thumbnails. Quick background: VistAImaging stores thumbnails with an extension .ABS, but the file type is really TGA. I have worked with this code:

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging: lets throw out TGA!

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Berman
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:30 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Well, I have been working unsuccesfully for a couple days trying to come up with an open source solution for creating TGA thumbnails. Quick background: VistAImaging stores thumbnails with an extension .ABS, but the file type is

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:00, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 22:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:00, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 22:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:24, Dr Molly Cheah wrote: Why not convert to mp3 files

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Ruben Safir
But, then again, I prefer the pragmatic approach over the idealistic approach preferred by some zealots. I'm sure we can just debate this for the next 3 days and 30 emails instead of actually publishing the call in either format. That seems to be the preferred route... BTW - it wouldn't

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Berman
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:52 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 23:00, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 22:50 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 20:42, Todd Berman wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 18:35 -0400, Ruben Safir wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging: lets throw out TGA!

2005-10-08 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
See below: On 10/8/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Such an approach means that others can run the end binary, but not compile (or optimize) the code. Or ours (which btw, loads TGA thumbnails w/o issues) ;) I'm excited about your code, but I don't have it in my hands

Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Imaging: lets throw out TGA!

2005-10-08 Thread Todd Berman
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 00:14 -0400, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: See below: On 10/8/05, Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Such an approach means that others can run the end binary, but not compile (or optimize) the code. Or ours (which btw, loads TGA thumbnails w/o issues)

Re: [Hardhats-members] supertypes and sub-types

2005-10-08 Thread chuck5566
FWIW, so would I. Any general idea, Rick, what it would take? Would Michael be willing to help with this? I'd be concerned about parallel but separate paths, as discussed before, but VA sites are starting to complain that can't even get adequate support for the current system, let alone