Re: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Gary Udstrand
Well, since NVidia makes only the chipsets I am not sure why it matters how much either of them make. If NVidia's chipset is profitable they will continue to make them. I don't know of many businesses that dispense with their bottom line only to prevent someone else from making a buck. -Gary Th

Re: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 08:55 PM 24/07/2006, Gary Udstrand wrote: No way, NVidia won't walk away from supporting AMD with their chipset as long as they are making money. Perhaps. But who makes more money from an AMD motherboard, the chipset maker or the CPU manufacturer? T

Re: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Gary Udstrand
No way, NVidia won't walk away from supporting AMD with their chipset as long as they are making money. -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 7/24/2006 8:11 AM: > I can see NVidia dropping AMD (which sucks for those of use with > their crappy NForce chipset drivers) and focussing comple

RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
using to get this sort of speed? T __ NOD32 1.1677 (20060724) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread RLS
Lol, it's the heat, boss, it's the heat, mb's sorry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:05 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

Re: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Ben Ruset
Thane Sherrington wrote: At 04:39 PM 24/07/2006, Winterlight wrote: I don't have it where I am but I saw that my sister up in northern California can get 6 for 30 a month from AT&T DSL. But 6Gbit/sec? How fast is Gigabit Ethernet? 1 GB.

RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:39 PM 24/07/2006, Winterlight wrote: I don't have it where I am but I saw that my sister up in northern California can get 6 for 30 a month from AT&T DSL. But 6Gbit/sec? How fast is Gigabit Ethernet? T

Re: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Chris Reeves
Not a six GIGABIT connection. As Thayne pointed out. I think that was just a typo CW Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:39:39 To:The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the i

RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Winterlight
I don't have it where I am but I saw that my sister up in northern California can get 6 for 30 a month from AT&T DSL. At 12:04 PM 7/24/2006, you wrote: At 03:29 PM 24/07/2006, RLS wrote: My thoughts Brian, is if it slows down my connection 20%, and I am supposed to be getting 6gbs then I am

Re: [H] -N- AMD official Price Cuts

2006-07-24 Thread Chris Reeves
Picked up a 5000+ a few minutes ago :). Yes I've seen conroe and I'm super impressed but this way I keep my board and don't need a reformat :) Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 08:23:11 To:"'The

Re: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Winterlight
I am thinking about it as well the subscription is a bit pricey... but I will be interested in a report back from you on how it is working out. At 10:07 PM 7/23/2006, you wrote: I have been thinking about it. It will slowdown your connection. From what I can gather from the docs on the si

RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 03:29 PM 24/07/2006, RLS wrote: My thoughts Brian, is if it slows down my connection 20%, and I am supposed to be getting 6gbs then I am still at 4.8gbs which is more than ample for 98% of everything I need. In fact in my rating of a service, it is really their routers and their ability to f

RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 10:19 AM 24/07/2006, Chris Reeves wrote: In the end, Nvidia may actually like this combination because it pulls more of ATI's resources away from developing high-end cards which lower Nvidia's profit margins and pull them instead toward 4x4 physics processors, etc. Maybe. I'm not sure what

RE: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread RLS
- I have been thinking about it. It will slowdown your connection. - I think it would be worth a bit of a slowdown - what good is having a - really fast connection if you can't use it for anything? -- - Brian My thoughts Brian, is if it slows down my connection 20%, and I am supposed to be get

Re: [H] -N- AMD Buys ATI (official announcement)

2006-07-24 Thread Veech
now this makes me nervous, will they then throw their prime resources into supporting ATI technology? Seems obvious. How do all the nVidia + AMD lovers end up with this move? - Original Message - From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Monday, July

[H] -N- AMD Buys ATI (official announcement)

2006-07-24 Thread Chris Reeves
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~110899,00. html AMD and ATI to Create Processing Powerhouse - $5.4 Billion Acquisition Will Drive Growth, Innovation and Choice - - AMD and ATI to Hold Joint Executive Conference Call Today at 8:00 a.m. EDT - NEW YORK -- July

[H] -N- AMD official Price Cuts

2006-07-24 Thread Chris Reeves
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (socket AM2 only) $301     Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (Energy Efficient*) $276     Athlon 64 X2 4600+ (socket AM2 and 939) $240     Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (Energy Efficient*) $215     Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (socket AM2

Re: [H] Anyone on the list using the iPhantom Internet security device

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:07 AM 24/07/2006, Brian Weeden wrote: I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in their spyware/filtering service but I am thinking about getting it just for the anonymizing service. With ISPs cracking down for stuff that isn't even illegal nowadays and who knows what sniffing and logging your p

RE: [SPAM SUSPECT] RE: [H] SAVCE 10

2006-07-24 Thread Bobby Heid
Thanks Wayne. Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:05 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: [SPAM SUSPECT] RE: [H] SAVCE 10 Importance: Low At 11:27 AM 7/21/2006, Thane Sherrington typed: >NOOO!

RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Chris Reeves
I think this is an overly worried look at this. Nvidia will not drop AMD chipset support. It just doesn't work out for them to do so, as it is very profitable for them, plus provides a solid base for them to sell their cards. In the end, Nvidia may actually like this combination because it pulls

RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:57 AM 24/07/2006, Mark Dodge wrote: I do not see this as a good thing, they would get less support from Nvidia and they are the ones that have helped them come out from under lintels' rein. I think this is a big mistake. Now they are competing with two companies that have traditionally

RE: [H] -N- AMD Expected to announce Acquire of ATI Monday

2006-07-24 Thread Mark Dodge
I do not see this as a good thing, they would get less support from Nvidia and they are the ones that have helped them come out from under lintels' rein.   Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You.     - Original Message - From: Chris Reeves To: The Hardware List Se