Re: [H] Water-cooling

2008-04-23 Thread Hayes Elkins
No offense, but I would call going from an x38 to a 780i a downgrade, not an upgrade, unless you must have SLI - and even then I'm not sure of the value/performance ratio of two 9600GTs vs a single 9800GTX. Water cooling should not be required in a non-overclocked system these days, even an

Re: [H] Water-cooling

2008-04-23 Thread Hunter, Gary
I agree 100% and I was trying to get that across in my note. The X38 is head and shoulders better than the 780i. It's just that I had a burning desire to play with SLI. I think the crashes are certainly heat related as they will only happen whilst I have been playing games for a while. I am

Re: [H] Water-cooling

2008-04-23 Thread The Beave
Look into your case and make sure your airflow is working well. This means get the power supply cables and mother board cables out of the middle of the case and try to hide them. Also, put some quality fans in the case, may make it loud once the fans turn on full, but at least it will keep the

Re: [H] Water-cooling

2008-04-23 Thread Hayes Elkins
I would run a utility to record GPU temps while gaming to gauge what kind of heat you are outputing before crashing. The 9600GT's run relatively cool and again I seriously doubt heat is causing the issue. What NV driver are you using? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:19:41 -0600 From: [EMAIL

Re: [H] Water-cooling

2008-04-23 Thread Greg Sevart
What's your case? Most (all?) of the 680/780i designs I've seen made pretty extensive use of heatpipe coolers. If your case uses an inverted mount, like a number of Lian Li cases do, those heat pipes don't work worth a damn. They supposedly have a wick inside to allow for inverted operation, but

[H] XP SP RTM?

2008-04-23 Thread Gary
I heard service pack 3 was released to manufactureTrue? Anyone tried it yet? Gary

Re: [H] XP SP RTM?

2008-04-23 Thread Hayes Elkins
It's already out in the wild, just not Microsoft. Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:48:38 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] XP SP RTM? I heard service pack 3 was released to manufactureTrue? Anyone tried it yet? Gary

Re: [H] XP SP RTM?

2008-04-23 Thread tmservo
Tried it. No big changes. Those running hacked versions get boned (of course) as it picks up almost all wpa hacks I've seen. Breaks older versions of Autocad, so beware of that. Nothing big changes as near as I can tell. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Gary [EMAIL

Re: [H] XP SP RTM?

2008-04-23 Thread Greg Sevart
Haven't tried it yet, but I downloaded it off MS TechNet. It was posted to TechNet and MSDN yesterday in the Top Downloads section (not the normal download center). I hate that they do that, but they use Akamai to distribute new popular items...which seems to be incompatible with their traditional