Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Pre-order now available

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Zaske
I'm curious, why do you keep XP on the same box? John R Steinbruner wrote: Oh and BTW, I am gonna 'upgrade' the Vista side of the dual boot and leave the XP intact even though it is much older than Vista.. :) On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:34 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: Thanx for the heads up.

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Pre-order now available

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Zaske
I'm seriously tempted to do it myself but I just got rid of 7001 on my game box because it just had too many incompatibilities. I've reinstalled Vista and the new SP2 makes it boot and run much quicker than before. I thought after 7 it would act like the dog I remember but it turned out to be a

Re: [H] Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Pre-order now available

2009-06-25 Thread John R Steinbruner
Oh and BTW, I am gonna 'upgrade' the Vista side of the dual boot and leave the XP intact even though it is much older than Vista.. :) On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:34 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: Thanx for the heads up.:) Just got my Win 7 upgrade package ordered for the half price special

Re: [H] Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Pre-order now available

2009-06-25 Thread John R Steinbruner
Thanx for the heads up.:) Just got my Win 7 upgrade package ordered for the half price special even though it's not Friday here yet. :) On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Stan Zaske wrote: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1090&tag=nl.e539 There's supposed to be only a limited number and if

[H] Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade Pre-order now available

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Zaske
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1090&tag=nl.e539 There's supposed to be only a limited number and if true will sell out quickly. Pre-order now and get the DVDRom when it ships October 22. It's really a good deal but I'm going to stick with Vista until SR1 comes out next year. http://bit.ly/4fh

[H] MJ and Farrah both dead today

2009-06-25 Thread Stan Zaske
Along with Ed McMahon who died earlier this week Farrah Faucet lost here battle with cancer today and Michael Jackson died of a heart attack about 2 hours ago. Bummer!

Re: [H] HD going bad?

2009-06-25 Thread Winterlight
Download the manufactures diagnostic, they all have one, and run their tests. At 04:30 PM 6/25/2009, you wrote: What's the best way to determine of an HD is going bad?

[H] HD going bad?

2009-06-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
What's the best way to determine of an HD is going bad?

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread Richard Quilhot
Just be sure to use good quality cable and connectors. Richard E. Quilhot C.N.A. quilh...@gmail.com Bill Cosby - "A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice." On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:17 PM, DSin

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread DSinc
JoeUser, As far as I read this and into this, you should be good to go. I believe that any switch or hub is a repeater(?) within the 100m envelope. Others may differ... :) I do suppose that there may be special boxes that are true "repeaters" in this context; like for cable extensions beyo

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread Joe User
The switches are needed anyway to provide AP's down the line. I hoped that it could also act as a 'repeater' in regards to the strength. I would have three total... mainline from Information Super Highway to about 230 ft - place 10/100 switch run another 200 or so and drop another switch and then a

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread DSinc
Mark, I think I am with you, sort of..My comprehension of very OLD solid/one wire was very early 10/base2(?). Coax. I could be really wrong here! But, I am sure we are all way beyond this technology. I clearly understand the "surfaces" business of multi-wire newer net cables. I'm sure som

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread Mark
Solid core, one wire to travel around like you say, multiple or stranded wire has more sufaces for the cage effect to get mucked up, altho it usually bends with out breaking opposed to solid core, it does not do well with network signaling. You will need switches, not hubs, every 100 meters and

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread DSinc
Rick, Thank you. I do understand the "Faraday skin effect." Still, I'm not sure how this really matters. Electricity always travels on the outer surface of any conductor. Rarely through the bulk/core of the conductor. But, I will go read some more and check out your links.. :) Perhaps m

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread Rick Glazier
From: "DSinc" But, I still do chafe at the "solid-core" business. Most of the cat5/6 cables I have looked at do NOT use "solid-core" wire. I mostly see multiple-strand (tiny) copper wire. I just looked this up recently on another list, in a different context. That is called the a Faraday skin

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread DSinc
JoeUser, Sorry. Yes, the length is 100 meters. This would be between "repeaters." OOPs! Now reads that you are good to go. Best, Duncan JRS wrote: Ethernet is normally 100 meters per drop, (328 feet) . There are also limitations to the number of hubs you can put in between end points as wel

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread DSinc
j., Sorry. I got metric/US mixed up again. Agree. But, I still do chafe at the "solid-core" business. Most of the cat5/6 cables I have looked at do NOT use "solid-core" wire. I mostly see multiple-strand (tiny) copper wire. Perhaps the same as the old 18/22 gauge inside-the-home wire of old. I w

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread Greg Sevart
As you state, that limit is for networks using hubs (and repeaters); switches do not have such a restriction. I suspect that Ethernet extenders are going to cost much more than a handful of basic Fast Ethernet switches... Greg > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.c

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread JRS
Ethernet is normally 100 meters per drop, (328 feet) . There are also limitations to the number of hubs you can put in between end points as well, I believe it's 3 for 100BaseT. Many companies sell Ethernet Repeaters or Extenders, in both copper and Fiber versions. Then you would not need

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread maccrawj
100m, not feet, with sold core is the spec AFAIK. DSinc wrote: JoeUser, I always thought that ENET cable (cat5/6) was limited to 100ft w/o some form of 'repeater' like a hub or switch. ?Probably why I use 2 GB switches to stretch my longest run of 65ft. Thanks. Interesting question

Re: [H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread DSinc
JoeUser, I always thought that ENET cable (cat5/6) was limited to 100ft w/o some form of 'repeater' like a hub or switch. ?Probably why I use 2 GB switches to stretch my longest run of 65ft. Thanks. Interesting question :) Duncan Joe User wrote: Hello Hardware List, I have

[H] Networking, distance, etc

2009-06-25 Thread Joe User
Hello Hardware List, I have to put a network in place. It's about 700 ft from the start to where I need to end it. It's got to be copper. I was going to run Cat6 (Cat6e?) even though its a 10/100 network and drop a 10/100 switch every 200 ft or so. The switch would serve 2 purposes: 1