Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Stan Zaske
Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and data are on machines that aren't local is the day the Internet becomes third world. My broadband connection failed again yesterday for a couple hours during the Michael Jackson memorial blitz. How can so many in the industry be pushing

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Rick Glazier
It's not like they set that precedent with WinME (as in going forward from WinME)... Rick Glazier From: "Stan Zaske" However, competing against Microsoft is a good idea as it may bring down their ridiculous prices. Anybody pee od'd that Vista owners don't get a free upgrade to 7?

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:55 AM 08/07/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and data are on machines that aren't local is the day the Internet becomes third world. My broadband connection failed again yesterday for a couple hours during the Michael Jackson memorial blitz. H

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Naushad, Zulfiqar
s-bad-news-for-windows-614362 -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:07 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 09:55 AM

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Brian Weeden
rating-systems/why-google-chro%0Ame-os-is-bad-news-for-windows-614362> > > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane > Sherrington > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:07 P

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
009 7:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 09:55 AM 08/07/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: >Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and data are >on machines that aren't local is the day the Internet becomes third >world. My bro

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Brian Weeden
...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:07 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS > > At 09:55 AM 08/07/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: > >Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Bryan Seitz
-Original Message- > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > > hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:07 AM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Brian Weeden
rcher > > > Websense Security Labs > > > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > > &g

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:51 PM 08/07/2009, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Gotta disagree with both you guys on that one. Cloud computing definitely has major advantages over local for various things. Not all things but for example storage. I rather have a google doc hosted by google that will never get lost to a harddrive cr

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 01:58 PM 08/07/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: I prefer to host my own stuff that way nobody is farming it for information, demographics, etc... I have things called backups and raid! I can see huge issues with security in the cloud unless you are 100% sure you can encrypt with no back door. T

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 01:51 PM 08/07/2009, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: >Gotta disagree with both you guys on that one. Cloud computing >definitely has major advantages over local for various things. Not >all things but for example storage. I

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
ly 08, 2009 10:19 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 01:58 PM 08/07/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: >I prefer to host my own stuff that way nobody is farming it for >information, demographics, etc... I have things called backups and raid! I can see huge

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
p.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS I prefer to host my own stuff that way nobody is farming it for information, demographics, etc... I have things called backups and raid! On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:54:53PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote: > I'm also a huge fan of cloud (done properly).

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Brian Weeden
I use Jungle Disk as a client for Amazon S3 for my offsite backup. And yes, its' secure - all the data is encrypted client side before being transmitted. As far as Amazon is concerned, they are storing 15 GB of random noise for me. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secur

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:01 PM 08/07/2009, Brian Weeden wrote: I do all that as well - but a backup solution that doesn't have some form of offsite backup is not really a good solution. Besides, when you are traveling and swapping between machines how do you keep everything synced together and have the ability to

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:35 PM 08/07/2009, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: It's actually even better for business than it is for home users. Salesforece.com perfect example of that. Have your whole CRM there for secure access anywhere, your data is safe, reports are better, advantages go on. Same with things like hosted Email

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 02:38 PM 08/07/2009, Brian Weeden wrote: I use Jungle Disk as a client for Amazon S3 for my offsite backup. And yes, its' secure - all the data is encrypted client side before being transmitted. As far as Amazon is concerned, they are storing 15 GB of random noise for me. Now that I would

Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS

2009-07-08 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
10:21 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 02:01 PM 08/07/2009, Brian Weeden wrote: >I do all that as well - but a backup solution that doesn't have some form of >offsite backup is not really a good solution. > >Besides, when you are travelin