My only experience with Sapphire is with a x1900XT. I had one card that had a
terrible high-pitched "whine" (not fan noise). I RMAed it after several months
only to find the replacement had the whine too, so I just ignored it. Then that
card died about a year later. Switched to an 8800GT and hav
'k, it's just trivia anyway! ;)
On 3/4/2010 12:54 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
Well, I was depending on memory and as my memory serves Riva128 was the
first with integrated 3D graphics. That was many years ago and if I am
mistaken forgive me. I haven't Google'd it.
On 3/4/2010 2:18 PM, maccrawj wrote
Well, I was depending on memory and as my memory serves Riva128 was the
first with integrated 3D graphics. That was many years ago and if I am
mistaken forgive me. I haven't Google'd it.
On 3/4/2010 2:18 PM, maccrawj wrote:
Ah, ok! Rendition Vertite, Nvidia TNT, ATI Rage 128, 3dfx Voodoo3 in
Ah, ok! Rendition Vertite, Nvidia TNT, ATI Rage 128, 3dfx Voodoo3 in rapid succession
over the 2 years 1997-1998 is the time line for 2D+3D integrated cards I believe?
Amazing how far things have come!
On 3/2/2010 9:46 AM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I was referring to Nvidia being first to engineer int
LOL, well the commenter can go to Sapphire but they have been far from trouble free
and less then helpful with ATI problem designs that are not BBA's. You may or may not
remeber my rant a few years back about going through a few Sapphire 3870x2's before
finally getting a VisionTek version.
3dm
I know for sure that I have the latest mobo biosand I just found
this comment on newegg (posted on 2/26/2010):
"
*Pros:* It's not HERS?
*Cons:* Anytime I boot up a game, 15 minutes later it crashes (or if
I'm lucky and if all the graphics are on low, it'll just be choppy
as h*ll
At 02:11 PM 3/2/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Thane,
I can't download your reply for some reason...but I can read it on
my phone...I have revision 2.0 of the P35-DS4 mobo. Thanks.
Well, assuming you have the latest BIOS and chipset drivers, then I
think you have a bad card. One thing you
This sounds like a bad piece of hardware. Time to start swapping
stuff out until you find the culprit.
w
At 08:44 AM 3/2/2010, you wrote:
Ok...I used Driver Clearer to clean both the previous nVidia and the
ATI drivers from my system.
then I went back and installed the ATI 10.2 CCC drivers.
Thane,
I can't download your reply for some reason...but I can read it on my
phone...I have revision 2.0 of the P35-DS4 mobo. Thanks.
On 3/2/2010 12:07 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Thane,
Which chipset do you refer to? I have a HIS Radeon HD5770. I've only
had this card for about 2 months
No...card is stock...no OC...the fan is spinning. 650 W PS. Nothing
wrong with the system. Fresh install except for these new drivers, which
seem to be funking thing up a bit...
I guess I'm just going to clean it again and then go back to the 9.x
drivers I had before. I could put this card i
Never seen Windows Experience Index crash before. Is your video card
OC'd, cooling fan spinning, adequate power from PSU? Doesn't make sense
to me or maybe the card is defective.
On 3/2/2010 10:44 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Ok...I used Driver Clearer to clean both the previous nVidia and the
I was referring to Nvidia being first to engineer integrated 3D
graphics. 2D graphics are the simple task of a video card by comparison.
3D graphics advancements drive video card development. And rapidly at that..
On 3/2/2010 10:19 AM, maccrawj wrote:
ATi was in the graphics game a long before
At 01:07 PM 3/2/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Thane,
Which chipset do you refer to? I have a HIS Radeon HD5770. I've only
had this card for about 2 months and frankly, it's been a bit of a
problem from the getgothe mobo is a Gigabyte P35-DS4. I've run
WEI plenty of times...even with thi
Thane,
Which chipset do you refer to? I have a HIS Radeon HD5770. I've only had
this card for about 2 months and frankly, it's been a bit of a problem
from the getgothe mobo is a Gigabyte P35-DS4. I've run WEI plenty
of times...even with this card, mind you. I think I was using the 9.x
At 12:19 PM 3/2/2010, maccrawj wrote:
Personal rant: there should be a law that when companies stop
supporting hardware with drivers that they MUST opensource the last
version's source code! =)
That would make a lot of sense.
T
At 12:44 PM 3/2/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Ok...I used Driver Clearer to clean both the previous nVidia and the
ATI drivers from my system.
then I went back and installed the ATI 10.2 CCC drivers.
The good news is I could actually see and open CCC and the ATI
folder from the program menu.
Ok...I used Driver Clearer to clean both the previous nVidia and the ATI
drivers from my system.
then I went back and installed the ATI 10.2 CCC drivers.
The good news is I could actually see and open CCC and the ATI folder
from the program menu. This is one thing I could not do previously as
ATi was in the graphics game a long before nVidia going way back to the EGA standard
& PC XT/AT systems. Did I miss something about your statement or do you miss that?
nVidia's "tactics" with both physx & disabling SLI on x48 SLI over "licensing" alone
a reasons enough to never use them. Of cou
in the system also
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re the best".doing them no favours either.
Regards
Jason
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favours either.
Regards
Jason
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You're entitled to your opinion as I am to
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Read what Bre
so
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They are the best in the world and only fail when management and bean
counters have them dilut
e is an AMD card in the system
also
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They are the best in the world and only fail when management and bean
counters have them dilute their efforts with chipsets
half Of Stan Zaske
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Read what Brent Justice has to write. He's no past fan of AMD/Ati
drivers. http://bit.ly/9D6uJ4
I'm having no prob
years.
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Read w
This will do it http://www.drivercleaner.net/
w
On 02/26/2010 13:56, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Do you have a way to do that?
Used to be I had a way to open the
control panel. Now, the only sign of an ATI driver is the ATI Install
Manager in Remove Programs. I can also see the drivers in
Anthony,
Probably no help, BUT, for the past few years I have seen that normal
"remove" option at CP/Add-Remove-Programs/ has changed. Seems proggy
writers now move me to run "their" uninstall routine. Like, "we can
not/do not wish to let MS rip us out of the party.
In all cases, the vendor do
Read what Brent Justice has to write. He's no past fan of AMD/Ati
drivers. http://bit.ly/9D6uJ4
I'm having no problems whatsoever with 10.2 or any past drivers. Never
had any problems with Nvidia drivers either although they admittedly
have the best driver engineers for video cards in the world
Do you have a way to do that? Used to be I had a way to open the
control panel. Now, the only sign of an ATI driver is the ATI Install
Manager in Remove Programs. I can also see the drivers in device manager
when I look at the drivers for the display adapter. This obviously can't
be right.
T
Do a full uninstall/cleaning of the anything ATI driver related, then install the
oldest driver that will support your card.
Assuming that works, backup and upgrade cautiously!
Love my ATI 3870x2, would of just as happily done Nvidia had they made a dual gpu
card and/or supported SLI on X48's,
Boy...
Things have really gone bad over here
I went to remove the 10.2 Cat. driverswell, I can't find any menu
options in the Programs menulike they were never installed. Go into
the Programs in Control panel...all I can find in there was the ATI
Install Manager (or whatever it is
Wow, that's too bad Anthony. Bummer!
On 2/25/2010 9:38 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Well, I got home yesterday to find what Win7 had shut down and
restarted. It reported that the ATI driver had a problem. So, I get
directed to ATIs website where i got the 10.2 drivers. I install
them...then ra
Anthony,
This may be a very good idea. I have been using a 4650 and a 4350 with
bare ATI drivers in XP. I did not allow the install of the Catalyst
Control Center.
I know. Not W7. And, not as advanced as you, but worth a try.
Best,
Duncan
On 02/25/2010 11:29, Thane Sherrington wrote:
At 11:3
Ok...I'd certainly try that. Thanks.
On 2/25/2010 11:29 AM, Thane Sherrington wrote:
At 11:38 AM 2/25/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Well, I got home yesterday to find what Win7 had shut down and
restarted. It reported that the ATI driver had a problem. So, I get
directed to ATIs website where
At 11:38 AM 2/25/2010, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
Well, I got home yesterday to find what Win7 had shut down and
restarted. It reported that the ATI driver had a problem. So, I get
directed to ATIs website where i got the 10.2 drivers. I install
them...then ran WEI and it crashes the PC.
I thin
Well, I got home yesterday to find what Win7 had shut down and
restarted. It reported that the ATI driver had a problem. So, I get
directed to ATIs website where i got the 10.2 drivers. I install
them...then ran WEI and it crashes the PC.
I think I regret getting an ATI board.
On 2/17/2010 3:
I believe you will have to upgrade to a 5000 series card to see the
benefits. Tempting no?
On 2/17/2010 12:56 PM, Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:
All this is great. But I have a 4890 and what is the perf gain on
that card?
Regards,
Zulfiqar Naushad
On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
I just finished downloading and installing. Got my fingers crossed but
haven't had much time with it because I'm reading reviews on 10.2 and
10.3 on a different box than my game machine.
On 2/17/2010 12:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
I hope all this comes true so I can feed good about buying
All this is great. But I have a 4890 and what is the perf gain on
that card?
Regards,
Zulfiqar Naushad
On Feb 17, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1.
Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a
"m
I hope all this comes true so I can feed good about buying a 5770.
On 2/17/2010 1:33 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:
10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1.
Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a
"major" update.
"By far the Application Profiles fea
10.2 is supposed to be out but when I checked it still showed 10.1.
Maybe later on today it will show up. Legit Reviews touts it as a
"major" update.
"By far the Application Profiles feature is the coolest feature in
Catalyst 10.2. I think it will revolutionize the way drivers will be
updated
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