Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-09 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 05:25 PM 08/08/2013, Joshua MacCraw wrote: and not measured using linear benchmarks. FYI you know about MyDefrag because of me the last time this came up. That's right. And I think I thanked you at the time. If not, thanks now. :) Excellent program. And frankly, if you're using a

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-09 Thread Joshua MacCraw
You did IIRC, was actually trying spark recollection of previous exchange, and you're welcome.I have argued before netbooks old PC's are performance is fine, same as tablets, for everyday web, email, spreadsheets, video, music, etc... but I agree we need not vector off here. The rest inline...

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-08 Thread Joshua MacCraw
No need to counter with stats, you partially debunked yourself! A linear copy test has no bearing on fragmentation's effects on real world random access. It wasn't 6 or 7 years ago, it was less than 4 this got hashed about. There's more database like activity than you think on the average PC and

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-08 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 06:35 AM 08/08/2013, Joshua MacCraw wrote: No need to counter with stats, you partially debunked yourself! A linear copy test has no bearing on fragmentation's effects on real world random access. It wasn't 6 or 7 years ago, it was less than 4 Ok, so you say my test is invalid. Maybe so,

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-08 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Are people still defragging? Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 06:35 AM 08/08/2013, Joshua MacCraw wrote: No need to counter with stats, you partially debunked yourself! A linear copy test has no bearing on

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-08 Thread DSinc
Yes, some of us do still exist! And, why I raised this thread. Now, I am rethinking my old rote PM duties. Duncan On 08/08/2013 08:00, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Are people still defragging? Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 8, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Thane Sherrington

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-08 Thread Joshua MacCraw
On Aug 8, 2013 4:44 AM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 06:35 AM 08/08/2013, Joshua MacCraw wrote: No need to counter with stats, you partially debunked yourself! A linear copy test has no bearing on fragmentation's effects on real world random access. It wasn't 6

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-08 Thread Greg Sevart
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joshua MacCraw Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:25 PM To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Defrag? On Aug 8, 2013 4:44 AM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 06:35 AM 08/08/2013, Joshua MacCraw

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-08-07 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 09:16 PM 03/08/2013, Joshua MacCraw wrote: Because it's a waste of time and power? :) WRONG Have you ever seen a performance bump after you defragged? YES Been down this argument path before Thane... Heh heh. Unfortunately, using the standard defragger in Windows, you are

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-07-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 08:40 PM 11/07/2013, DSinc wrote: Can anyone please tell me why doing an EMD defrag post 'backup' is a bad thing? I'd really like to understand this logic/thought. Because it's a waste of time and power? :) Have you ever seen a performance bump after you defragged? T

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-07-17 Thread Thane Sherrington
At 04:10 PM 17/07/2013, DSinc wrote: Thane, Well no; but, I don't really measure 'performance.' OK, perhaps I will quit this old practice. BTW, welcome back... :) Well, in my opinion (and after a lot of testing) defragging for most people is a complete waste of time. There are

Re: [H] Defrag?

2013-07-17 Thread Al Anger
Thane wrote: I do think that mydefrag is a good program, since it does some additional optimization. +1. Back in the 98SE days I would put a large file (movie) on a drive before installing the OS. Delete the movie and that first Defrag would fly. Nothing to move out of the way and

[H] Defrag?

2013-07-11 Thread DSinc
Can anyone please tell me why doing an EMD defrag post 'backup' is a bad thing? I'd really like to understand this logic/thought. I will allow that I do defrag (via MS) my emd devices post each 'patch cycle.' Please explain. I do accept grumble via the MS 'defrag' logic. Still, I use it.