Re: [H] Memory issues (Solved)

2008-09-01 Thread Greg Sevart
Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:18 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Memory issues (Solved) > (*snip*) > > Here are my temps at idle according to Speed

Re: [H] Memory issues (Solved)

2008-09-01 Thread Brian Weeden
Well I'm going to have to fess up to being an idiot on this one. After several of your suggestions (and my own low confidence in the determination of bad RAM as that has never happened to be before) I did some more testing. Turns out the culprit was overheating in the system. When I was doing my

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-30 Thread Soren
I've build a few A/V editing systems using almost the same basic components every time, e.g. true CAS2 RAM from Kingston. One day, when designing a system with an AMD processor (normally I'd use Intel for A/V), this particular RAM didn't play at all. Blue and black screens everywhere, in no par

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-28 Thread Rick Glazier
I have to agree. They treated me well on the single return I had to make. I did not even buy through their memory configuator on the WEB but got what "seemed to be" the same exact model number from Best Buys. NOTE: They add extra numbers (a suffix) to "hone-in" more exactly to your "exact system"

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-28 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Winterlight wrote: . I think I've pinned it down to the Crucial ram. That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Planning on trying that (and a few other combinations) tonight. It will not allow for dual channel (which means the RAM will run at 400 Mhz instead of 800Mhz) but otherwise should work. --- Brian On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:01 PM, DHSinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > Can you do slot 1+

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, Can you do slot 1+3 or slot 2+4? (and/or all the permutations!) I suspect this may defeat the "dual channel" business, but just a thought ATM. Only way I know to remove focus to the m/b. But, as you guys are light years ahead of me, I may just be barking in the breeze on this one..

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Yep. Started with RAM in slots 1&2 for dual channel capability. Crashes. Kept just one in slot 3. Stable. Moved both to slots 3&4. Crashes. Kept just one in slot 4. Stable. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Winterlight, > > Tuesday, August 26, 200

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello FORC5, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:16:39 PM, you wrote: > sounds like a bad memory slot on the MB, only seen this a couple of > times and it was the motherboard both times. YMMV > fp Yeah, thats my idea 2 more pieces of RAM would be the way to find out. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looki

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Winterlight, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 2:11:50 PM, you wrote: > Do this one stick at a time. If they both work individually OK then > you have your answer it's not the ram it's the board or > something on the board that doesn't like dual channel access. He did. Either one work

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread FORC5
sounds like a bad memory slot on the MB, only seen this a couple of times and it was the motherboard both times. YMMV fp At 10:34 AM 8/26/2008, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: >When I rebuilt my HTPC I used an AMD 780G motherboard (GIGABYTE >GA-MA78G-DS3H), Athlon X2 4850e, and 2x2GB Crucial B

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Winterlight
Like I said, with just one stick of the Crucial in there it seems to work just fine (3.5 days of uptime since pulling one stick). Brian Do this one stick at a time. If they both work individually OK then you have your answer it's not the ram it's the board or something on the board

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Right now I can't replace both sticks unless I can toss some older DDR in there - I don't have any extra DDR2 sticks on hand. Not sure if that's possible. If it is, I can do that tonight. Like I said, with just one stick of the Crucial in there it seems to work just fine (3.5 days of uptime sinc

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:32:09 PM, you wrote: > I had that same assumption. I've never had a case where RAM went bad on me > in the 10+ years I've been building machines. But it seems to be the only > part swap that correlates with the crashes. I changed the motherboard and > t

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Winterlight, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 1:17:05 PM, you wrote: > That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented > proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, > but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right under a > PCP&C PS...

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Greg Sevart
> > >. I think I've pinned it > >down to the Crucial ram. > > > That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented > proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, > but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right under a > PCP&C PS...and they

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
I had that same assumption. I've never had a case where RAM went bad on me in the 10+ years I've been building machines. But it seems to be the only part swap that correlates with the crashes. I changed the motherboard and the boot drive and the crashes continues, the only card in the machine is

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Winterlight
. I think I've pinned it down to the Crucial ram. That would be very surprising. I have never heard of a documented proven case of Crucial RAM going bad. I'm not saying it can't happen, but Crucial RAM would be the last thing I would suspect right under a PCP&C PS...and they never break e

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, How about try 00 and 02; and then 01 and 03. Like one yellow and one orange. Best, Duncan At 14:51 08/26/2008 -0400, you wrote: Tried it both ways - 2 DIMMS in orange slots and 2 DIMMS in yellow slots, same amount of instability either way. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Joe User <[EMA

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
Tried it both ways - 2 DIMMS in orange slots and 2 DIMMS in yellow slots, same amount of instability either way. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Joe User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello DHSinclair, > > Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 12:37:07 PM, you wrote: > > > Brian, > > This one is a toughy! I

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello DHSinclair, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 12:37:07 PM, you wrote: > Brian, > This one is a toughy! I've yet to have trouble with Crucial RAM. Odd. > Have you tried all the RAM slots? And, in different combinations; well > what the book suggests? Like one in the yellow bank and one in the > or

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Joe User
Hello Brian, Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 11:34:57 AM, you wrote: > My question is, could this be something else causing the problems? Should I > return both for replacement to Crucial? Just one? Will they even accept it > when there doesn't appear to be any defects with the RAM? Or should I ju

Re: [H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread DHSinclair
Brian, This one is a toughy! I've yet to have trouble with Crucial RAM. Odd. Have you tried all the RAM slots? And, in different combinations; well what the book suggests? Like one in the yellow bank and one in the orange bank? Perhaps one of the slots you use has busted connections. Certainly

[H] Memory issues

2008-08-26 Thread Brian Weeden
When I rebuilt my HTPC I used an AMD 780G motherboard (GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3H), Athlon X2 4850e, and 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2 800. Ever since then I've been getting a lot of errors, bluescreens crashes and it's been a real beast to track down the root cause. I think I've pinned it down to the