RE: [H] SATA II support

2007-04-11 Thread Hayes Elkins
Nope From: Winterlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] SATA II support Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:29:24 -0700 I am buying a SATA II drive. It comes with a on board jumper for 1.5 or 3Gb/s. I am planning on running it on a IntelPERL b

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-19 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "joeuser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Were you expecting an answer? Watch this... Chuck, tell us about those laptops... Frisbees

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-19 Thread joeuser
rdware List" Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:14:43 -0500 - Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Does enlight cases come with power supplies that are ATX12V

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-18 Thread Hayes Elkins
This does not answer my question. 24 pins alone does not mean ATX12V v2.01 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List To: "The Hardware List" Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:14:43 -0500 - Original Message --

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-18 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 02:10 PM 11/18/2005, Chris Reeves typed: Yeah, another perk of black.. The stuff doesn't discolor after basic use.. Something that is definitely a problem with the lighter beige cases. Once you go black you never go back. I've gone with black cases for the past 2+ yrs now because of the d

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-18 Thread Chris Reeves
OTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of warpmedia > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List > Subject: Re: [H] SATA II > > They don't get that brown film/discoloration thing! Get off > the beige man, personally I li

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-18 Thread warpmedia
o: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II I can't use this as it comes with a free NEC floppy drive & I only use Mitsumi drives. ASI ran out of beige Mitsumi's so I ordered a case of Sony's a couple of weeks ago.

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-18 Thread FORC5
nLite is great, wish there was one for Office fp At 09:01 AM 11/18/2005, warpmedia Poked the stick with: >For slipstreaming, unattend setup, oem driver includes, bloatware removing >I've recently found "nLite": -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Tend the molehills, the mountains look after t

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-18 Thread warpmedia
Well if the driver disks are current it would but they almost never are. When I was building we almost never used bundled driver discs due to age, always tried to throw in floppies of updated bench copies. These days I'd be giving a custom driver CD, DVD backup image of boot partition, and sli

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II IMHO *all* PCs should come with physical recovery media. And by that I mean an XP disk and a driver/a

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread Ben Ruset
ist Subject: Re: [H] SATA II You have to order the recovery media for Dell Inspirons/Dimensions now. It's not bundled with the machine. I have heard of people who called up tech support and they sent them the media overnight for free. I paid the $10 to get the media with my Inspiron 700m

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread Chris Reeves
essage- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Hardware List > Subject: Re: [H] SATA II > > You have to order the recovery media for Dell > Inspirons/Di

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread Ben Ruset
You have to order the recovery media for Dell Inspirons/Dimensions now. It's not bundled with the machine. I have heard of people who called up tech support and they sent them the media overnight for free. I paid the $10 to get the media with my Inspiron 700m. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hav

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Does enlight cases come with power supplies that are ATX12V v2.01 (with dual 12V lines) as well as a PCIe connector? Or are they st

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Tim Lider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:24 AM Subject: FW: [H] SATA II Dell, in my case has on site repair for my Laptop. The last laptop I had with them it was onsite free for one year. This one I ha

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread Hayes Elkins
Does enlight cases come with power supplies that are ATX12V v2.01 (with dual 12V lines) as well as a PCIe connector? Or are they still ATX12V v1.3? From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List To: "The Hardware List" Subject: Re: [H] S

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II How about competing by providing a better service or a service that no one else provides ? W

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-17 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [H] SATA II For example; Chuck has pointed out he often uses Celerons in the Socket 775 platform. T

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 08:59 PM 11/16/2005, Julian Hale typed: At 09:37 AM 11/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: If out of ignorance I err on the side of caution, it may cost a little more, but I can sleep at night knowing it will work. How is that a moral statement??? I too will spend more money to get a more r

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Chris Reeves
How is that a moral statement??? I too will spend more money to get a more reliable product, especially if it's for a customer. I'm not saying that AMD products are less reliable, but they don't have the lengthy history of Intel.< That having been said, no matter how lengthy a history, everyone

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Greg Sevart
At 09:37 AM 11/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: If out of ignorance I err on the side of caution, it may cost a little more, but I can sleep at night knowing it will work. How is that a moral statement??? I too will spend more money to get a more reliable product, especially if it's for a c

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Chris Reeves
: Re: [H] SATA II I never thought I'd buy a black case, but I picked up this monster a few weeks back: http://www.directron.com/pcv2000bw.html Damn. I love it. Whoever thought it would be a good idea to put 12 internal 3.5" HD bays in a workstation case should get a raise. After I bo

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Julian Hale
At 01:34 PM 11/15/2005, Wayne Johnson wrote: At 03:21 PM 11/15/2005, Julian Hale typed: Hey, come on. Quit picking on Chuck just because you don't agree with his decisions. It's his business, he can run it the way he wants. I didn't write anything about subject other than what was posted but

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Greg Sevart
27;" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:47 PM Subject: RE: [H] SATA II Yep. I'd use black cases. Outside of the fact they look "cool" the bigger reason is this: black cases tend

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread FORC5
use black cases =-O At 05:31 PM 11/16/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poked the stick with: >- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "The Hardware List" >Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:51 AM >Subject: Re: [H] SATA II > &

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Chris Reeves
CK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:31 PM To: The Hardware List Subject:

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II I can't use this as it comes with a free NEC floppy drive & I only use Mitsumi drives.

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Wayne Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:08 AM Subject: RE: [H] SATA II Ok guys, I was just kidding with my post about having to use Raptors in all my systems. Than

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 02:41 PM 11/16/2005, Stan Zaske typed: Xmas is coming and maybe you could wrap it up and give it to one of the in-laws. lol ROTFLMAO That would be a trick & us old foggies are lucky to be around never mind our 'rents. Maybe I'll give it to the UPS guy instead. ;-) Have a great day. ---

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Stan Zaske
Xmas is coming and maybe you could wrap it up and give it to one of the in-laws. lol Wayne Johnson wrote: At 01:59 AM 11/16/2005, Stan Zaske typed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144424 I can't use this as it comes with a free NEC floppy drive & I only use Mitsum

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 01:59 AM 11/16/2005, Stan Zaske typed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144424 I can't use this as it comes with a free NEC floppy drive & I only use Mitsumi drives. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-16 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 01:59 AM 11/16/2005, Stan Zaske typed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144424 Thank You as I must have been more tired than I thought last night not to be able to find that. Thanks again. --+-- Wayne D. Johnson Ashland, OH, USA 44805

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Stan Zaske
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144424 Wayne Johnson wrote: At 09:39 PM 11/15/2005, Chris Reeves typed: I just had a WD74G Raptor die on me :( Actually, to be honest, I wasn't as super impressed with them as I thought I would be. Ok guys, I was just kidding with m

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 09:39 PM 11/15/2005, Chris Reeves typed: I just had a WD74G Raptor die on me :( Actually, to be honest, I wasn't as super impressed with them as I thought I would be. Ok guys, I was just kidding with my post about having to use Raptors in all my systems. I switched over and finally swit

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Greg Sevart
- Original Message - From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: RE: [H] SATA II I just had a WD74G Raptor die on me :( Actually, to be honest, I wasn't as super impres

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Ruset
--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:46 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] SATA II At 04:52 PM 11/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: And you who say the SATA connectors fall off? I have not had that problem. My SATA c

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Chris Reeves
-- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wayne Johnson Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:46 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re:

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 04:52 PM 11/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: And you who say the SATA connectors fall off? I have not had that problem. My SATA compliant power supplies are Enlight in Enlight cases and my motherboards are Asus. I have not had that problem. My SATA compliant power supplies are Antec in an

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Greg Sevart
Hey, come on. Quit picking on Chuck just because you don't agree with his decisions. It's his business, he can run it the way he wants. And you who say the SATA connectors fall off? I have not had that problem. My SATA compliant power supplies are Enlight in Enlight cases and my mothe

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Chris Reeves
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:09 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] SATA II Intel retail desktop boards have metal clips on the ends of their supplied SATA cables. They now snap in more firmly. >From: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Julian Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Hey, come on. Quit picking on Chuck just because you don't agree with his decisions. It's hi

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 03:21 PM 11/15/2005, Julian Hale typed: Hey, come on. Quit picking on Chuck just because you don't agree with his decisions. It's his business, he can run it the way he wants. I didn't write anything about subject other than what was posted but why make these moral statements that just do

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Hayes Elkins
Oops forgot to add that PS makers may want to borrow from that idea for the SATA power connectors. From: "Hayes Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Hardware List To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] SATA II Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:09:14 -0500 Intel retai

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Hayes Elkins
Intel retail desktop boards have metal clips on the ends of their supplied SATA cables. They now snap in more firmly. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] SATA II Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 16:05:33 - Indeed, IMO its a moot

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 04:21 PM 15/11/2005, Julian Hale wrote: Hey, come on. Quit picking on Chuck just because you don't agree with his decisions. It's his business, he can run it the way he wants. Yeah, you're right. Sorry Chuck. T

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Julian Hale
Hey, come on. Quit picking on Chuck just because you don't agree with his decisions. It's his business, he can run it the way he wants. Julian At 06:39 AM 11/15/2005, you wrote: At 10:19 AM 15/11/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: Why's that? Because he's been using Intel CPUs for the last 100 years

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Bobby Heid
Ok, found a picture of the new connectors here: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1742&page=3 Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:24 PM To: 'The Hardware List' S

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Bobby Heid
Isn't there a new SATA II connector that has a latch or something on it? Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:01 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Oh, I know he was.

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread joeuser
(LOL) Hurrah INTEL! AMD numba ten! Thane Sherrington (S) wrote: At 10:19 AM 15/11/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: Why's that? Because he's been using Intel CPUs for the last 100 years and they've never failed. :P T -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Jason . Tozer
Sent: 15 November 2005 15:16 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Couldn't the SATA power still fall off the drive easier? *** This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipien

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Greg Sevart
hey, let's entrust the integrity of 500GB of data to a connector that will fall off if you look at it funny" augh! Greg - Original Message - From: "Chris Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Hardware List'" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Ruset
you look at it funny. Greg - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II - Original Message - From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hard

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Chris Reeves
FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:09 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] SATA II

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Greg Sevart
D]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II - Original Message - From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread James Maki
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Molar to SATA You have an adapter from the teeth in your mouth to a SATA drive? Or did you mean Molex? Jim Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Wayne Johnson
At 09:37 AM 11/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: If out of ignorance I err on the side of caution, it may cost a little more, but I can sleep at night knowing it will work. But if it costs you more then it costs your customers more. You're not out anything. --+-- Wayne D.

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread chuck
- Original Message - From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Hardware List" Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [H] SATA II Why's that? I have never liked adapters such as USB cards, Molar to SATA etc. I have used them in

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 10:19 AM 15/11/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: Why's that? Because he's been using Intel CPUs for the last 100 years and they've never failed. :P T

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Thane Sherrington (S)
At 10:19 AM 15/11/2005, Ben Ruset wrote: Why's that? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I refuse to use Molar to SATA power adapters. __ NOD32 1.1286 (20051115) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 1.1286 (20051115)

Re: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Ben Ruset
Why's that? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I refuse to use Molar to SATA power adapters.

RE: [H] SATA II

2005-11-15 Thread Chris Reeves
Yes. Same cables. -- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE