Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi (moved to harmonay list since it is just a list of teechnical points), On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 23:02 -0400, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On May 6, 2005, at 10:54 PM, Simon Kitching wrote: Without that, only general design principles can be shared between Harmony and these projects, which

Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 08:19 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: Mark Wielaard wrote: I'll make sure I talk to one of the FSF legal people again to make sure there is progress in these discussions. Some people are setting up a new teleconference between the ASF and FSF to talk about these issues more

Assembled comments from the web

2005-05-07 Thread Henri Yandell
Things from Slashdot that seem of interest: 1) Use Parrot. 2) Pity for those who have to write the AWT libraries. 3) Use JamVM. (It's GPL). 4) Harmony was a project to GPL QT (http://www.kde.org/whatiskde/qt.php). 5) Have Sun open-source things to Harmony, or IBM. Otherwise, mostly positive

Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Tom Tromey
Mark == Mark Wielaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MarkI don't know if there are documents on the shared bytecode Markverifier ideas that some people talked about. The verifier exists in Markpluggable form on the gcjx branch of the GCC cvs repository. There are no documents. I ought

Re: Assembled comments from the web

2005-05-07 Thread Tom Tromey
Henri == Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Henri 1) Use Parrot. LLVM is probably a better choice, if it comes to that. But looking at execution engines is probably premature. Henri 5) Have Sun open-source things to Harmony, or IBM. Would be nice. Henri 6) Will generics be truly in the

Re: Assembled comments from the web

2005-05-07 Thread Richard S. Hall
Tom Tromey wrote: Some of the tasks here involve ways to better integrate the class libraries with other free software projects: http://www.peakpeak.com/~tromey/free-java.html I think adding OSGi implementations to that list would make sense too. I think the idea of a configurable, modular VM

Re: Harmony: project purpose

2005-05-07 Thread Sam Ruby
Anthony Green wrote: On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:55 -0400, Sam Ruby wrote: I firmly believe that we can form an inclusive community in which everybody who is willing to meet each other half was has an opportunity to participate. Yes, we've seen this work before...

Re: Assembled comments from the web

2005-05-07 Thread Brian Goetz
6) Will generics be truly in the .class files and not just a compiler hack? (I assume we can extend that to many of the compiler hacks. Hard to see the advantage as even if the generics are in there, we wouldn't be able to change things to let you use reflection on generics, varargs etc). Then it