Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I think it is too early for this to go to a vote. Right now, all of the binding votes would be cast by people who haven't written any code on the project. I would favor addressing this issue once there are some active committers. For now laissez-faire should rul

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 3, 2005, at 3:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I was just discussing it to find out what people thought about the general subject. I didn't call for a vote. Right and I was stating that I don't think anyone should. That said, this is an Apache project

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread acoliver
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I was just discussing it to find out what people thought about the general subject. I didn't call for a vote. Right and I was stating that I don't think anyone should. That said, this is an Apache project in the Incubator, and one of the objectives is to crea

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 3, 2005, at 2:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Initially the discussion had a component of author tags. It will be easy to change the policy of author tags to not than vice versa. Even easier to allow all to do as they feel initially and set a uniform policy later when the binding

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread acoliver
Initially the discussion had a component of author tags. It will be easy to change the policy of author tags to not than vice versa. Even easier to allow all to do as they feel initially and set a uniform policy later when the binding votes can be cast by a basic quorum of those whom it will

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
What? I was talking about having a contributor page *and* an AUTHORS file, independent of the in-file author tag issue, and quite frankly, I think we should do it now as people are contributing. If anyone has a real problem with the httpd-style committers page and tracking AUTHORS in a fi

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread acoliver
BTW, I think it is too early for this to go to a vote. Right now, all of the binding votes would be cast by people who haven't written any code on the project. I would favor addressing this issue once there are some active committers. For now laissez-faire should rule. -Andy Geir Magnusson

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 3, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Dan Lydick wrote: I have looked at the HTTPD contributors page and I like it. I have also looked at the AUTHORS file in Archie Cobbs' code and I like it as well. If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose both. That was my intention. On the website where i

RE: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Dan Lydick
> [Original Message] > From: Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/1/05 11:10:55 PM > Subject: [project policy] Author credit and attribution > ...snip... > > I've worked in projects that did it, and some that didn't. When tags >

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-03 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Leo Simons wrote: I'm against author tags. I've had too many discussion about it in the past that I don't want to repeat though, so I won't bother ;) Same here. SVN + a detailed credits.txt file is a much better way to deal with this issue and it scales for years, not just for the little ego

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 6:49 PM, Leo Simons wrote: On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 12:04:55PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: [SNIP] Cool! I also like http://subversion.tigris.org/hacking.html which is basically the same kind of guide, only a little different in some corners. At apache, lots of proje

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-02 Thread Leo Simons
On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 12:04:55PM +0200, Mark Wielaard wrote: > If you are looking for some guidelines for working together on code and > how to keep track of who wrote what when then I would recommend starting > out with our GNU Classpath Hacker Guide. Specifically chapter 7. > "Working on the co

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-02 Thread Leo Simons
I'm against author tags. I've had too many discussion about it in the past that I don't want to repeat though, so I won't bother ;) - LSD

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-02 Thread Archie Cobbs
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The Apache Board has recommended that projects not employ author tags in their source code. The main motivation for this recommendation is to remove "territorial ownership" from code. My vote is to not have @author tags. The SVN log should be the definitive source

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Thanks mark for this link. This captures a lot about how I like to work. Some key things : "The main thing is to always discuss what you are up to on the mailinglist. Making sure that everybody knows who is working on what is the most important thing to make sure we cooperate most effec

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, If you are looking for some guidelines for working together on code and how to keep track of who wrote what when then I would recommend starting out with our GNU Classpath Hacker Guide. Specifically chapter 7. "Working on the code, Working with others". It explains that the main rule is to alw

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 12:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer them. I've never had any of the problems that happened in Avalon or other projects in any project I've been involved in. Author tags do not signify ownership, they signify "I wuz here". They are also a principle reason that

Re: [project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-01 Thread acoliver
I prefer them. I've never had any of the problems that happened in Avalon or other projects in any project I've been involved in. Author tags do not signify ownership, they signify "I wuz here". They are also a principle reason that a lot of newbies get involved in open source because they c

[project policy] Author credit and attribution

2005-10-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Might as well do this, now that we are getting in code by the bucketful. One of the fundamental notions of an Apache project is the notion of community ownership - that this is _our_ project, collectively. However, this collective project is composed of significant individual contributions