Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source (was: Re: JavaSound Was: java.sql.*)

2006-02-15 Thread Dalibor Topic
Leo Simons mail at leosimons.com writes: Since the JDK stuff is now all mostly out in the public, and most NDAs are effectively voided once the information they are meant to protect is available through other means not involving an NDA. Missing the cue by just a few days, Sun Microsystems

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'm not so sure - the fact that there's been that exposure under NDA means there can be no contribution in that area until the NDA problem is resolved. Which means? Do I have to solve it or are you willing to solve it? Are you kidding?

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-13 Thread Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Geir Magnusson Jr schrieb: I'm not so sure - the fact that there's been that exposure under NDA means there can be no contribution in that area until the NDA problem is resolved. Which means? Do I have to solve it or are you willing to solve it? Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Are you

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 01:49:34PM +0100, Tor-Einar Jarnbjo wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr schrieb: I'm not so sure - the fact that there's been that exposure under NDA means there can be no contribution in that area until the NDA problem is resolved. Which means? Do I have to solve it or are

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr schrieb: I'm not so sure - the fact that there's been that exposure under NDA means there can be no contribution in that area until the NDA problem is resolved. Which means? Do I have to solve it or are you willing to solve it? Geir

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-13 Thread Dalibor Topic
Leo Simons wrote: In absence of court decisions, there is just the possibility to draw very clear lines what constitutes safe contributions and what doesn't. I disagree that this is possible. Combining intellectual property laws from a variety of jurisdictions with many years of open source

NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source (was: Re: JavaSound Was: java.sql.*)

2006-02-12 Thread Leo Simons
Vorbis is cool :-) Thanks for thinking this stuff through and being careful about protecting everyone and yourself from legal mess. IANAL. Not Legal Advice. On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 12:08:20AM +0100, Tor-Einar Jarnbjo wrote: Which code, and what were the terms of the NDA? The CLA is fairly

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
Leo Simons wrote: Vorbis is cool :-) Thanks for thinking this stuff through and being careful about protecting everyone and yourself from legal mess. IANAL. Not Legal Advice. On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 12:08:20AM +0100, Tor-Einar Jarnbjo wrote: Which code, and what were the terms of the NDA?

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source

2006-02-12 Thread Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I'm not so sure - the fact that there's been that exposure under NDA means there can be no contribution in that area until the NDA problem is resolved. Which means? Do I have to solve it or are you willing to solve it? It is of course silly of me not to keep legal

Re: NDA issues and acceptable use of sun source (was: Re: JavaSound Was: java.sql.*)

2006-02-12 Thread Dalibor Topic
Leo Simons mail at leosimons.com writes: If you put a notice to that effect onto your authorized contributor form that should probably be fine. If you can't remember what bit of the implementation you looked at, chances are you also don't remember what you saw! People have been successfully