RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-29 Thread Shmuel Ben-Gad
Methinks Mr. Katz doth protest too much. But I wish him shalom rav anyway. Shmuel Ben-Gad, Gelman Library, George Washington University. Mme de Gramont...was called before the Revolutionary Tribunal to sta

RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-29 Thread Bernard Katz
I too had not intended to write again, however, I must protest Mr. Ben- Gad's statement that what I said in my previous posting was "dismissing reviews that appear in ideologiclaly [sic] committed publications". In fact I said: "At question is who published it and how this can alert us to a possibl

RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-28 Thread Shmuel Ben-Gad
I hadn't intended ot write on this again, but , with all respect, I cannot agree with Mr. Katz's dismissing reviews that appear in ideologiclaly committed publications. (I leave aside the fact that the new historians themselves tend to left-wing views which many say inform their own historical work

RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-28 Thread Bernard Katz
Shmuel Ben-Gad writes that his "main point is that [Israel's] 'new historians' views are seriously controverted within academia", and I certainly agree with him. So what is a librarian selecting books for the library to do? After all, it is impossible to become an instant expert in this or any othe

RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-27 Thread Shmuel Ben-Gad
Of course my main point is that the "new historians" views are seriously controverted within academia, as Professor Karsh's wrtitings and the other scholars I mentioned indicated. Another example is Yehoshua Porath, emeritus profesor of Middle East History at Hebrew University who wrote an essay q

RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-27 Thread Bernard Katz
Shmuel Ben-Gad names five scholars "ho [sic] I do not think would concur with Mr. Katz". At the time I looked into the accuracy of Effraim Karsh's book, I found some 20 reviews, about 3/4 of which were in scholarly journals. Because of the controversial nature of the book and its thesis, I read mos

RE: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-27 Thread shmuelb
Bernard Katz says that Professor Karsh is "not be trusted." Based upon their comments on the book "Fabricating Israei History," these are some scholars ho I do not think would concur with Mr. Katz: Itamar Rabinovich, Daniel Pipes. Hyam Maccoby, J. C. Hurewitz, and Norman Berdichevsky. ==

Re: [Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-24 Thread Bernard Katz
In his comment about Benny Morris, Shmuel Ben-Gad (Gelman Library, George Washington University) referred to Efraim Karsh's 1997 book, "Fabricating Israeli history: the 'new historians'", as having "challenged the worth of at least some of [the new historians'] work. Most reviews of Professor Karsh

[Ha-Safran] New historians

2003-10-23 Thread Andrea Rapp
Regarding the "new historian" mentioned by Mr. Katz, I think it worthwhile topoint out that the scholar Efraim Karsh has challenged the worth of at least some of their work === And some of these historians, e.g. Benny Morris, have come to explicity repudiate their earlier work. ===

[Ha-Safran] New Historians

2003-10-23 Thread Shmuel Ben-Gad
Shalom lachem. Regarding the "new historian" mentioned by Mr. Katz, I think it worthwhile topoint out that the scholar Efraim Karsh has challenged the worth of at least some of their work (e.g. in his book "Fabricating Israeli history : the 'new historians.'" Shmuel