Re[4]: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-14 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Kaveh, Sunday, August 6, 2006, 5:40:26 PM, you wrote: > I think we need a subset of haskell as a new language (or as a > developing pattern) to work with and teach and learn more easily as > you have mentioned. it called Helium :) but in general problem is what Haskell's way to deal with

Re: Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-06 Thread Kaveh Shahbazian
I think we need a subset of haskell as a new language (or as a developing pattern) to work with and teach and learn more easily as you have mentioned. I had read a text about mathematics which was something like this : "New mathematic theories does not populize because of their fabiolus logical th

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-06 Thread Neil Mitchell
Hi Kaveh, Maybe this is not a proper question but I think It has a point. Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#? Yhc does both :) Java as an interpretter for the haskell byte code, C# as a native MSIL generator. We also have Python as well as C, if you're feeling adventurous. Thanks Neil __

Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-06 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Kaveh, Sunday, August 6, 2006, 12:54:01 PM, you wrote: >> how can we decrease Haskell popularity? > Why? Because someone must prevent mean programmers to try Haskell? Or > it is a bit of old holy codex? Or maybe I must feal tired of hearing > newbies questions? all the three and especiall

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-06 Thread Kaveh Shahbazian
Then I must apologize again. (Communications and activities are so attractive that I cann't prevent my self from it. One aspect of it is to apologize. :D). Thankyou and Thank you too! ;) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.h

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-06 Thread Piotr Kalinowski
On 06/08/06, Kaveh Shahbazian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how can we decrease Haskell popularity? Why? Because someone must prevent mean programmers to try Haskell? Or it is a bit of old holy codex? Or maybe I must feal tired of hearing newbies questions? No, no. He meant a mental exercise. Y

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-06 Thread Kaveh Shahbazian
I made a mistake : popularity! This was a meaning that described my thoughts at that moment. Let me make it clear by another question : Can someone say perl is popular? If we see it that way, I meant a good and efficient community-based expansion and some good tools to use. how can we decrease H

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Antonio Cangiano
On 8/5/06, Piotr Kalinowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Yes, yes. I'm simply not sure if making changes only to reach more and> more people is good.These changes are good as long as they possibly add something valuable beside popularity and they don't introduce significant downsides. My point was t

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Piotr Kalinowski
On 05/08/06, Antonio Cangiano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Because we are humans and as such, we generally love to share our passions with other people. From a less sociological standpoint, a larger user base implies faster development of interesting projects, more libraries, books, user groups, co

Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Kaveh, Saturday, August 5, 2006, 11:52:16 AM, you wrote: > I do not meant to compile Haskell to MSIL/JVM. I meant to compile > Haskell to the Java or C# itself! for what? btw, there is a jhc compiler (http://repetae.net/john/) that translates Haskell to ANSI C which allows to reach OCaml-l

Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Bulat Ziganshin
Hello Antonio, Saturday, August 5, 2006, 7:07:17 PM, you wrote: >>> But there must be a way to populize Haskell! >> What for? > On the other hand, individuals that need to belong to an elite, and > the RTFM crowd, will experience a further frustration to feed their insecure > personality. the

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Antonio Cangiano
On 8/5/06, Piotr Kalinowski wrote: On 05/08/06, Kaveh Shahbazian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> But there must be a way to populize Haskell!What for?Because we are humans and as such, we generally love to share our passions with other people. From a less sociological standpoint, a larger user base imp

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Piotr Kalinowski
On 05/08/06, Kaveh Shahbazian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But there must be a way to populize Haskell! What for? Regards, Piotr Kalinowski -- Intelligence is like a river: the deeper it is, the less noise it makes ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskel

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Kaveh Shahbazian
I do not meant to compile Haskell to MSIL/JVM. I meant to compile Haskell to the Java or C# itself! And GHC will be there for a high performance language (but still O'Caml is better by the time). But Java proves that in enterprise solution, performance is a complex factor of many thing other than

[Haskell-cafe] Compiling To C And Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#?

2006-08-05 Thread Kaveh Shahbazian
1 & 2 - Maybe this is not a proper question but I think It has a point. Why Not Compiling To Java Or C#? What is the need of implementing a class interoperability between Haskell and other plateforms? Maybe we donot need that. Haskell can be the big infrastructure and code snippets in Java or C# c