Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
On 23/10/06, Timothy Knox wrote: Now you want to do dependency analysis, to include everything that is required, which seems fscking stupid to me. After all, I chose everything. By definition, that should need no analysis. Unfortunately, that's not true. There might be conflicts between some o

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 08:37:27PM -0700, jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: > The biggest problem I have with CPAN is the contents. Packaging tools > only go so far, taste is also an ingredient for a good system. > > (And no, I'm not bitching (here) about the language, but the about the > poor

Re: MySQL and foreign-key support

2006-10-24 Thread Philip Newton
On 10/24/06, Peter da Silva wrote: On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Philip Newton wrote: > And let's not even get started with databases who won't let you insert > empty strings into VARCHAR columns, turning them into NULL instead. Sure that's the DB and not some hateful access library that's cover

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread jrodman
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 03:43:58AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > On 24 Oct 2006, at 03:11, Sean Conner wrote: > > > apt-get, emerge, yum, ports, they're all hateful. > > > > GenericUnixPrompt> yum install foobar > > Sorry, I can't find that package. > > > >What? I can't just use the

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
On 24 Oct 2006, at 04:37, jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: While on the one hand, I think your idea of expecting all programs to be in packages of the same name is not a good requirement for a packaging system, it of course points to the lack of an obvious way to say 'give me the package

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
On 24 Oct 2006, at 03:11, Sean Conner wrote: apt-get, emerge, yum, ports, they're all hateful. GenericUnixPrompt> yum install foobar Sorry, I can't find that package. What? I can't just use the generic name by which *everybody* calls it to get the latest and greatest? No

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great seph once stated: > Martin Ebourne writes: > > > Fortunately even Redhat know that up2date is the worst package manager > > lookalike ever conceived for a non MS platform. Hence they've killed it > > and written a new thing. At least on fedora anyhow, don't know wh

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread seph
Martin Ebourne writes: > Fortunately even Redhat know that up2date is the worst package manager > lookalike ever conceived for a non MS platform. Hence they've killed it > and written a new thing. At least on fedora anyhow, don't know what the > paying customers are getting this time around. Wai

Re: MySQL and foreign-key support

2006-10-24 Thread Peter da Silva
On Oct 23, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Philip Newton wrote: And let's not even get started with databases who won't let you insert empty strings into VARCHAR columns, turning them into NULL instead. Sure that's the DB and not some hateful access library that's covering for a shortcoming in the language

Re: Hating up2date

2006-10-24 Thread Martin Ebourne
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 14:31 -0700, Timothy Knox wrote: > Dear up2date, > > PS Burn in hell forever, you hateful pig! Fortunately even Redhat know that up2date is the worst package manager lookalike ever conceived for a non MS platform. Hence they've killed it and written a new thing. At least on f