Re: perl and line endings...

2008-10-17 Thread Smylers
Aristotle Pagaltzis writes: * Smylers smyl...@stripey.com [2008-10-10 19:40]: \n denotes a 'new line', a virtual concept which is made up of some concept of some combination of line feeds (\x0A) and carriage returns, in an attempt to cope with the hateful different ways OSes have

Re: perl and line endings...

2008-10-17 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Smylers smyl...@stripey.com [2008-10-17 09:50]: Aristotle Pagaltzis writes: That's actually totally wrong! (Is being actually totally wrong different from just being wrong?) Yes: what you wrote was wrong on multiple levels and did not incorporate any individually correct statements.

[offlist] Re: perl and line endings...

2008-10-17 Thread Smylers
(Is being actually totally wrong different from just being wrong?) Yes: what you wrote was wrong on multiple levels and did not incorporate any individually correct statements. OK, fair enough! It's a very misconception, though, Yes. It's very. The missing word was common,

Re: [offlist] Re: perl and line endings...

2008-10-17 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Smylers smyl...@stripey.com [2008-10-17 13:35]: Did I miss something? No, just that I when I read it, so I thought I'd highlight it and perhaps make a few other people as well. Cheers. Hehe. By itself that would have worked, it’s just in combination with the “totally wrong” quibble

Re: Lurking within MT

2008-10-17 Thread Peter da Silva
This sort of shenanigans are possible in just about any language. The hate here isn't Perl lets you load guns so people can shoot themselves in the foot. It's the bastards who wrote this code are setting someone's feet up the gun.

Re: Lurking within MT

2008-10-17 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:43:20PM -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: The hate here isn't Perl lets you load guns so people can shoot themselves in the foot. It's the bastards who wrote this code are setting someone's feet up the gun. I see no hate. It's not like any sane person is ever going to

Re: Lurking within MT

2008-10-17 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:12:24 +0100, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 09:43:20PM -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: The hate here isn't Perl lets you load guns so people can shoot themselves in the foot. It's the bastards who wrote this code are setting

Re: Lurking within MT

2008-10-17 Thread Peter Corlett
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:12:24PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: [...] I see no hate. It's not like any sane person is ever going to use MoveableType and so get affected by it. Anybody writing MT plugins is going to be doing use MT::RandomModule at some point, although one could easily argue

Re: Lurking within MT

2008-10-17 Thread Michael G Schwern
Phil Pennock wrote: On 2008-10-16 at 12:19 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: Read Reflections on Trusting Trust by Ken Thompson as he goes about ways a malicious author could hide a trojan horse in seemingly innocent code. http://www.c-program.com/kt/reflections-on-trusting.html Then reflect

Re: Lurking within MT

2008-10-17 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Simon Wistow si...@thegestalt.org [2008-10-16 22:00]: Mmm, can you taste the *crunchiness* of 6 year old code? In the case of the MT codebase, most assuredly. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // http://plasmasturm.org/