Re: Probably everything.

2010-12-20 Thread Philip Newton
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 23:06, Matthew King matthew.k...@monnsta.net wrote: And mailing lists. Does everybody with a hard drive and an internet connection need to host every mailing list that ever was? Do I really need to see the same thread in 100 locations asking for help to make up for the

Re: This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2010-12-19, at 06:36, Peter Corlett wrote: Those of us with jobs and credit cards won't put up with that nonsense and will pay for the problem to go away. It seems that despite - or perhaps because of - a further five years of development, the Year Of The Linux Desktop is further away in

This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Peter Corlett
I found a tool that looked useful but wasn't in Debian due to licensing issues. I shall not name it, as it's probably fairly typical and singling it out is not the point of this rant. I grabbed the source tarball expecting a few iterations of trying to build it and then installing a random

Re: This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Numien
On 12/19/2010 07:36 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: It takes a lot of effort to drive away your core users, but I see that Linux GUI developers are up to the task. Apple has been working hard on that too, with their war against Adobe, deprecating Java, and generally trying to get rid of anything

Re: This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Benjamin Reed
On 12/19/10 1:51 PM, Numien wrote: Apple has been working hard on that too, with their war against Adobe, deprecating Java, and generally trying to get rid of anything that isn't theirs. They're just earlier in their campaign. Luckily, there 143 different Linux and BSD distributions* aimed at

Re: This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk [2010-12-19 13:40]: It seems that despite - or perhaps because of - a further five years of development, the Year Of The Linux Desktop is further away in the future than it was before. Mobile security was one of the core issues discussed at [Linux

Re: This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Peter Corlett
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 01:51:34PM -0500, Numien wrote: [...] Apple has been working hard on that too, with their war against Adobe, deprecating Java, and generally trying to get rid of anything that isn't theirs. They're just earlier in their campaign. So you're saying that Apple are wanting

Re: This is why I gave up on Linux desktops

2010-12-20 Thread Peter Corlett
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:28:35PM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: [...] Mobile security was one of the core issues discussed at [Linux Security Summit] (and during the rest of the week), with the year of the Linux desktop now apparently permanently canceled due to