Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Mar 2, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Phil Pennock wrote: On 2008-03-02 at 05:46 -0800, Joshua Juran wrote: If ssh could just pick a free port and then set an environment variable saying which one it was, that would be very cool, except of course for allowing ANYONE

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

Joshua Juran wrote: But somehow, it's mysteriously difficult to make remote file editing not suck. Or maybe nobody cares enough. FWIW, emacs TRAMP has a slight positive pressure. I use it in rsync mode. http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/TrampMode That said, where's my user-space remote f

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 2008-03-02 at 05:46 -0800, Joshua Juran wrote: > If ssh could just pick a free port and > then set an environment variable saying which one it was, that would be > very cool, except of course for allowing ANYONE ON THE REMOTE SYSTEM to > connect to my forwa

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: > On 2008-03-02, at 05:50, demerphq wrote: > > *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of > > features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. > > What's an example of an editor that isn't hateful? I was going to pos

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

It was thus said that the Great Peter da Silva once stated: > On 2008-03-02, at 05:50, demerphq wrote: > >*Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of > >features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. > > What's an example of an editor that isn't hateful? For me, it's IB

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

* Joshua Juran [2008-03-02 16:20]: > On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote: >> Doesn't a little script that does rsync, edit, rsync cut it? > > Assuming you mean from the local system: No. That fails to > reuse not only the context implicit in the remote shell > (foreign host, current d

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 05:39:33PM +0100, demerphq wrote: > On 02/03/2008, Peter da Silva wrote: > > On 2008-03-02, at 05:50, demerphq wrote: > > > *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of > > > features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. > > > > > > What's an exam

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

In article <5a834e35-b787-46d0-aa59-bd5f8c7de...@gmail.com>, Joshua Juran wrote: >On Mar 2, 2008, at 3:50 AM, demerphq wrote: >> *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of >> features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. >How else do you make it work on a vt220? It's

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 02/03/2008, Peter da Silva wrote: > On 2008-03-02, at 05:50, demerphq wrote: > > *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of > > features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. > > > What's an example of an editor that isn't hateful? To do that I would have to find on

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 2008-03-02, at 05:50, demerphq wrote: *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. What's an example of an editor that isn't hateful? Because I've never run across an editor on any other system that didn't suck by comp

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 02/03/2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * demerphq [2008-03-02 13:00]: > > > *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of > > features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. > > > Win32 editors are *so* much better. > Win32 editors are laughingly hateful across the bo

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:29 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 2 Mar 2008, at 13:46, Joshua Juran wrote: I tried setting up a local HTTP server with a CGI script that invokes my preferred editor, forwarded the port over ssh, and then using an 'editor' that sends the file over HTTP and receives it ba

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

* demerphq [2008-03-02 13:00]: > *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of > features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. Win32 editors are *so* much better. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 2 Mar 2008, at 13:46, Joshua Juran wrote: I tried setting up a local HTTP server with a CGI script that invokes my preferred editor, forwarded the port over ssh, and then using an 'editor' that sends the file over HTTP and receives it back. It basically works, except that ssh port forwar

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Mar 2, 2008, at 4:59 AM, demerphq wrote: On 02/03/2008, Joshua Juran wrote: On Mar 2, 2008, at 3:50 AM, demerphq wrote: *Nix editors are laughingly hateful across the board. Lots of features, too bad about the goddamned USER INTERFACE. How else do you make it work on a vt220? It's not

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 02/03/2008, Joshua Juran wrote: > On Mar 2, 2008, at 3:50 AM, demerphq wrote: > > > On 02/03/2008, Peter da Silva wrote: > >> On 2008-03-01, at 16:02, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > >>> * Nicholas Clark [2008-02-28 23:30]: > I felt that emacs jumped the shark > >>> > >> > >>> I thou

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Mar 2, 2008, at 3:50 AM, demerphq wrote: On 02/03/2008, Peter da Silva wrote: On 2008-03-01, at 16:02, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Nicholas Clark [2008-02-28 23:30]: I felt that emacs jumped the shark I thought emacs was *born* on the other side of the shark. Emacs is older than

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 02/03/2008, Peter da Silva wrote: > On 2008-03-01, at 16:02, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > > * Nicholas Clark [2008-02-28 23:30]: > >> I felt that emacs jumped the shark > > > > > I thought emacs was *born* on the other side of the shark. > > > Emacs is older than the shark. The shark was b

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On 2008-03-01, at 16:02, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Nicholas Clark [2008-02-28 23:30]: I felt that emacs jumped the shark I thought emacs was *born* on the other side of the shark. Emacs is older than the shark. The shark was born on the wrong side of Emacs.

Re: emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

* Nicholas Clark [2008-02-28 23:30]: > I felt that emacs jumped the shark I thought emacs was *born* on the other side of the shark. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

emacs hate (was Re: qmail hate -- or love ( and the new KDE hate))

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:14:01PM -0500, Gerry Lawrence wrote: > Continuing on with my "No post without hate" policy -- emacs 22 -- WHAT > THE F??? > > Space doesn't complete any more?I have to turn OFF the stupid splash > screen? GRRR > HATING. I felt that emacs jumped the shark