7;crash --dump-core'
then? I'm looking at native-install from gnu-20020816.
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:17:57PM +0100, Ludovic Court?s wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 10:04:57AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>
> BTW, what's the reason for the poem that is just above file_chauthor in
> fs.defs? :)
To make hackers groan.
t single-user and run
native-install twice after unpacking the files. This is documented in
Mr. Walfield's installation guide. I don't remember exactly what gets
done during the first run, but I believe the second run initializes
the dpkg databases and creates a minimal
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If there turn out to be good
reasons why multiple users would want write access to the same file
hierarchy without clobbering each others' work, probably shadowfs will
be the way to do it.
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s of
the GNU Coding Standards which aren't FHS compliant.
> How about making the GNU FHS an extension to the current
> (LSB) FHS.
The LSB includes the FHS as part of its specification. Quoting the
LSB, Chapter 17:
An LSB conforming system
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 07:48:38PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Richard Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > At this point, though, the draft doesn't point out any distinctions
> > between GNU and GNU/Linux systems, so the whole thing can be drop
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 07:51:02PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 12:50:08AM -0700, Grant Bowman wrote:
> > Richard Kreuter wasted others' time writing:
> > > This is the annex for the GNU operating system. We sometimes refer
> > > to
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:17:30PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:06:06PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 04:33:37PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > > Here's a redraft based on the discussion over the last day or
>
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:06:06PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 04:33:37PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > Here's a redraft based on the discussion over the last day or
> > so.
> >
> > The GNU system has been designed with a goal of pro
Here's a redraft based on the discussion over the last day or
so.
Same punctuation: +++ is stuff added since last time, <> for editorial
remarks.
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The following things need to change in the FHS itself:
3.5.1 Grub may place its configuration file under /boot.
3.9.3 I'm not sure /lib/modules
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 07:37:01PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:09:08PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:57:42AM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> > (2) statically linked servers in /hurd may be named foo.static, so
&g
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:57:42AM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> * Richard Kreuter writes:
> > 6.2.x /hurd : The Hurd servers
>
> > /hurd contains the Hurd server binaries. Servers with .static appended
> > to their name must be statically linked servers, servers with
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 03:01:18AM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> Richard Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Two comments...
>
> > /servers/crash The node where the crash server translates.
>
> I am not a native speaker, but wouldn't be s/where/w
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 05:45:06PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 06:26:58PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:45:24PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > > In the GNU system, /usr is a symbolic link to /. The / and /usr
&
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 06:26:58PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:45:24PM -0400, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> >
> > 6.2.x /usr : Secondary Hierarchy
> >
> > In the GNU system, /usr is a symbolic link to /. The / and /usr
>
> Note that i
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 06:05:41PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 10:52:45PM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:08:49PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > > I think it would be nice to post the GNU things to the mailinglist
&g
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:00:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Richard Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Distributors wishing to maintain compatibility with non-GNU/Hurd
> > systems may create symbolic links in the /sbin directory to these
> > binar
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:08:49PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> I think it would be nice to post the GNU things to the mailinglist
> before they'll release the next version, which will be soon.
I've merged what I've understood from Thomas Bushnell's and Jeroen
Dekkers's latest comments. I also
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:08:49PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 06:35:29PM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:16:06PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>
> I think it would be nice to post the GNU things to the mailinglist
> befo
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 03:36:08PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Richard Kreuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The /com hierarchy should contain the following directories:
> >
> > /com/mail
> > /com/spool/news
> > <...what else?>
&g
On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 10:16:06PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
>
> I recently saw another proposal on the FHS mailinglist:
> /srv - data generated by users for the services the system offers
>
> It seemed that they agreed that is was right. Isn't this just a
> special case of /com and should th
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> > what's the logic behind the /com name?
>
> We needed a place for mutable data that could be shared between
> machines...
So should the sharable parts of FHS's /var be in /com on GNU? If
so, should /var/mail, et al., be
thought it was
configuration data belonging in /etc, and spent hours looking for it
there. :(
Richard
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b's are for libraries.
As far as I can tell, the GNU coding standards would place the
contents of /var/lib in /com. Maybe there are other subdirectories of
/var whose contents would be in /com, too.
Richard
kreuter at ausar.rutgers.edu
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being pretty hairy, and not for the fainthearted.
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:35:36PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 02:49:21PM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 07:42:56PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, but I can't find a rationale for the /sbin d
rd systems belong in bin directories on GNU/Hurd, because
the unprivileged user is able and encouraged to use them under normal
system conditions.
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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 05:34:33PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:30:03AM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
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> > New, little stuff:
> >
> > For the GNU annex: several utilities are required for boot or
> > restoration of GNU/Hurd, and
On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 12:02:16AM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 05:43:09PM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:36:02PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
>
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:36:02PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 03:31:16PM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> >
> > "On a GNU system, the contents of a directory listing need not
> > reside on a single volume; therefore directories may be created
. Instead the X Window System should
> be placed in /usr.
I thought it was: 'for each directory in X11R6, the contents
of that directory should be placed in /usr//X11, if /usr/foo
exists when X is not installed, or /usr, if /usr/foo doesn't exist.'
This is Debian policy for n
ady have some work on this, but it's far from finished. I will
> finish it when I've more time, I can post it if somebody is
> interested in working on it.
Sure, I'd like to help.
Richard
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On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 11:55:40AM -0500, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 11:07:53AM -0500, Richard Kreuter wrote:
> > The main difference at the moment between FHS and the hierarchy now
> > used is that /usr is a symlink to /.
>
> The trick is that t
how to
use apt and another operating system to fetch and install packages,
provided that both GNU/Hurd and the other operating system can access
a shared filesystem. For now that means the other os has to be a
GNU/Linux (may I suggest Debian :)) or a BSD.
Hope that Helps,
Richard
kreuter at a
host-priv-port=${host-port} --device-master-port=${device-port}
--exec-server-task=${exec-task} -T typed ${root} $(task-create)
module /ld.so.1 /hurd/exec $(exec-task=task-create)
Note that that's five lines.
Hope that helps,
Richard
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e, I don't understand
> how to manage that ??
What happens to you here? Anything? Make sure you got the
characters all correct at the grub prompt; I've mistyped some a number
of times :)
Richard
kreuter at ausar.rutgers.edu
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e added, then they ought to
be added to oskit.
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it's non-fatal, and maybe
also insignificant. (You might want to do a mailing list archive
search for some discussion of this by the Real Hurd Hackers; I think
it's a bug in GNUmach that hasn't been important enough to fix.)
> Then it stops writing error messages and boots serv
Calling it simply "Debian
GNU" will confuse the hell out of a lot of people. "Debian GNU/Hurd"
will give it a better and more distinguishable identity.
GNU and GNU/Hurd are two names for the same system; the latter name
emphasizes the fact that the kernel is the Hurd. It is useful to
Hello,
I read on the HURD homepage that it has an "object-oriented structure"
(under the "it's built to survive" heading). Does this mean that parts of
it are actually written in C++, or that the style and design exhibit OO
patterns?
Thanks,
Richard
or you, too.
I guess it is a GRUB issue and not one of the HURD.
Thanks,
Richard
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