On Tue, Jun 22, 2004 at 04:48:10PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: libpmount
> Version : 0.0.1
> Upstream Author : Myself.
> * License : LGPL
> Description : Portable mount library
>
since august 2002.Otherwise I would assume that the date
> would have changed so that I would have noticed that.
Please don't do things like that, you waste your time and ours. If you had
checked you'd found that the tarball isn't in contrib/marcus anymore.
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obsolete though, see the FAQ or install guide for
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 11:08:51AM +0200, Ognyan Kulev wrote:
> Robert Millan wrote:
> >You mean from contrib/robertmh/gnu.tar.gz?
> >
> >Don't install GNU using that tarball, it was uploaded unsigned during the
> >time gnuftp was cracked, and we can't ver
the following:
>
> # -bash: mesg: command not found
This is from the sysvinit package. We haven't ported it yet.
> So, taking all these into account, should I consider my system
> functional? or I still miss something?
Sounds to me like problem #3 is really critical for functio
, this is explained in the FAQ at hurd.gnu.org.
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nted lines that come from Marcus' crosshurd, perhaps
some of them are related to this.
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gives and hoards not, and
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 01:35:25PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
>
> Basicaly, yes..
>
> I'll try to have a look, but it's not that I like risking to waste my
> installed GNU system playing with that. Uhm..
Marcus passed me his old cross-hurd script and after a quick look
nal again would it be possible to
> get that information on this list? or if not possible, where
> should I look for that information, please?
Basicaly, yes..
I'll try to have a look, but it's not that I like risking to waste my
installed GNU system playing with that. Uhm..
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> >>>>>
This can be easily fixed but there are more errors. You won't get crosshurd
to work properly untill we upload a properly built coreutils to the archive,
which will take some time.
So you should use the tarball instead. (and wait for someone to comment on the
runsy
On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:09:12AM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 11:47:26PM +0200, Marian-Nicolae V. Ion wrote:
> >
> > <<<<
> > 99% [Waiting for file]
> >
9% [Waiting for file]
Remove the alpha.gnu.org line from /etc/apt/sources.list
When you have finished, please report how it works, I uploaded that tarball
without even testing it and need some feedback.
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http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
which I'm taking care to update and ensure it always points to a working
gnu.tar.gz, untill we have a working crosshurd again.
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On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 10:15:35AM +0200, Marian-Nicolae V. Ion wrote:
> Does anybody have an ideea where should be found gnu-latest.tar.gz?
Follow the link in section 4 of:
http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
I don't paste the link here cause it's subject to change
I don't really have time for
>this right now.
>
> I can do it today, and report back tomorrow.
Thanks.
> And next time, please keep non-Debian issues of debian-hurd.
Well I just CCed both help-hurd and debian-hurd to get broader audience.
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ce that someone checked it. Simply by
grabbing a snapshot from cvs "branch-1-5" (cvs co -r branch-1-5 libtool)
and running "make check" on it.
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e community in
> any way.
Don't think it's worth, but thanks for the offer :)
If you have good bandwidth and are phisicaly far from alpha.gnu.org, maybe
it's pointful to mirror http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd though (we have an
APT repo there)
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> (oh the "irony" with them being inside a linux directory)
Heh, I'm so used to it. See, I once was told that GNU and GNU/* systems
are actualy variants of Linux...
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obtaining a Debian GNU/Hurd CD is in
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"Instructions for burning CDs from the images can be found at
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software as an extension? if it isn't
> > i'll contact the mailman maintainers promptly.
> I don't know. ASK maintainers may know more...
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- is GNU mailman able to use this software as an extension? if it isn't
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On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 06:31:35PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote:
> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Uhm.. Marcus, it seems that people love you so much they still want
> > your old tarball :)
>
> `Hiding a tarball' does not seem to be an approp
b/robertmh/xfree86. If you want to keep
using them, you need to add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/hurd/contrib/robertmh/xfree86 unstable main
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 11:47:14PM -0500, asubedi wrote:
> >= Original Message From Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
> >Where did you get the GNU tarball from? contrib/marcus/attic ?
>
> I got it from there.
Uhm.. Marcus, it seems that people love you so much
there's a still-deprecated-but-not-so-old
tarball in contrib/robertmh. I don't recommend using it though.
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e PIPE_BUF parameter by sizeof(PK) and report
> this problem upstream.
Thanks for fixing this! I had left it appart for a while already.
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s responsible for switching runlevels (/etc/rc?.d and
> /etc/init.d come to mind), respawning services (/etc/inittab comes to
> mind) and similar things.")
oh, i understand now.
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 06:05:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > are you planning...
> > - to make it gnu software?
>
> As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
> of sof
debian?
i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
might fit well?
[1] http://people.debian.org/~rmh/gnu-freebsd/
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> support.h:69: syntax error before "size_t"
> support.h:71: syntax error before "size_t"
> gmake[1]: *** [base_irq_softint_handler.o] Error 1
what version of gcc are you using?
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compiled with the GNU C compiler, on various types of CPU."
portability is always nice, but it's silly for the GNU project, which is
the project to develop an operating system, to optimise its own tools for
other systems (even though variant
re in dpkg 1.10.9 code.
btw dpkg 1.10.4 still works fine, look in http://snapshot.debian.net/
please some of the alpha people could put up a fixed/hacked version there?
even if you just rise epoch to 1:1.10.4 from the older version it'll save
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how
> many points this would require?
>
> (If it's a $2000 problem and I have $200 then I would
> rather pool my money with someone else to get another
> problem solved.)
did you say a Mozilla port? this sounds interesting, and likely
affordable for my skills. got any offer?
in the case
> of glibc, you risk facing the Wrath Of Drepper (sort of like the Wrath
> of Kahn, except that drepper always wins *g*)
I see.. then maybe it's not a good idea to share porting-related libc
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 01:45:30PM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 01:33:31PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> > fine! i still like having a separate list of api-porting-related bugs in
> > debian BTS, but as Marcus said Savannah is the canonical place.
>
r a way to have a "filtered" list of bugs
that only contains api-porting-related bugs. the Debian BTS is
accomplishing that functionality currently, but i'm not sure if
the Gentoo developers will like to use that.
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st of api-porting-related bugs in
debian BTS, but as Marcus said Savannah is the canonical place. I'll
forward the bugs in hurd-dev and care to send a copy for Savannah when
i file new ones.
some questions:
- the Glibc savannah site [1] doesn't have an entry for bugs. what do
the libc
ensure everyone gets them.
- what about API porting-related bugs in the Hurd and Glibc? the debian BTS
entries for hurd, libc0.3 and libc0.3-dev contain porting-related bugs.
(ala, "function foo(), needed for package bar, is broken or unimplemented")
maybe we should copy and forward the
www.gentoo.org first, see they call it
> Linux and not GNU/Linux and draw the same concusions as you did?
I'm not sure what is the viable way to solve this, if such way exists. I was
just being communicative and sharing my POV on that problem with you all.
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e called Gentoo GNU/Hurd.
as i said to Jon, your position sounds coherent, but Gentoo doesn't call
itself a "GNU/Linux distribution" in first place. If it did, i wouldn't
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Another wor
userland combined with the Hurd.
maybe you're right in that it's pragmaticaly better. i have my doubts on
wether people reading "Gentoo GNU/Hurd" will think of it as a distribution
of GNU, but looks like one way or the other some sort of confusion can&#x
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:35:52PM -0500, James A. Morrison wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 19:23, Robert Millan wrote:
> > GNU/Hurd was the term used for referring to GNU to avoid confusion with
> > its variant GNU/Linux, since they say "Gentoo Linux" in first place i
>
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 07:38:02PM -0500, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 01:23:39AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> > GNU/Hurd was the term used for referring to GNU to avoid confusion with
> > its variant GNU/Linux, since they say "Gentoo Linux" in first p
ince they say "Gentoo Linux" in first place i
don't see what they mean to distinguish GNU from..
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http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/sysdeps/mach/hurd/tmpfile64.c?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=glibc
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ed changes in configure.in, i think
that version should work. anyone has tried it?
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> * Networked filesystems. The only one that's implemented right now is
>NFS, I'm afraid.
There's ftpfs and httpfs. both do (barely) work IIRC.
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n of
the partition, like this:
dd if=/dev/hdXY of=/tmp/fs bs=32k count=1
then identity it with gnu file
file /tmp/fs
Currently there isn't any filesystem that is only supported by GNU/Hurd,
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think it's realy fun when Linux (the kernel) and OpenSource zealots come
out flaming like that, proving they fear that a superior dessign of system
core can draw attention away from that pity anti-ideological pragmatism they
advocate for.
How can we get more of this, maybe if we ask ESR poli
there is no difference.
> what am i going to do?
install the build-dependencies of the Hurd. it seems you need gnumach-dev in
this case.
apt-get -y build-dep hurd
or
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s the error may be related to problems with an un-fsck'ed root
filesystem, as ext2fs was started on such some times.
I'm going to reinstall. If i hit this error again, is there something
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odd interaction between
> ext2fs.static and Bochs, or if this could be a bug in
> ext2fs.static (in which case I'll report this to Bug-Hurd).
well, bochs emulation is not perfect. specialy when it comes
to hardware devices and bioses. but if you can't reproduce
it i doubt it can be helpful to t
dware
error or a software bug.
Anyway with only CD 1 you can install a fully working GNU system and update
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t)
> and how to setup
> floppy drive
settrans -a /floppy /hurd/something /dev/fd0
depending on the floppy filesystem. vfat is partialy supported
> umount command also didn't work saying that command not
> found.
we don't have umount? how about:
#!/bin/sh
settrans -fg $1
c
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>
Hi,
> Should ppp work? do people use ppp under
> GNU or what?
um-pppd is broken and won't build on GNU. See
http://bugs.debian.org/147085 for details
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kes it hard to obtain a list of all filesystems. IIRC
someone was working on an mtab translator for that.
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If you mean debian source packages they're not in the CDs, fetch them
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guments? there's no central list of mounted filesystems yet
that won't work, but it surely shouldn't hang. try running it with GDB
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manages multiple UIDs.
you can also play with userspace filesystems for NFS and FTP in
/hurd/{nfs,ftpfs} that you can run as user, debug with GDB, etc.
- More questions?
Read the FAQ (http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/faq.en.html) for a
general overview on the
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the TODO file.
There are also issues like performance and stability which have a lot to
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> please.
Hi José,
Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was working on a ShadowFS
implementation some time ago:
http://duesseldorf.ccc.de/~moritz/hurd.html
i don't know if he's still maintaining it
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> before...
well, try it then :)
if you can't cross-compile for some reason we can build
a custom mach for you.
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On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:58:47PM +0200, Patrick Strasser wrote:
>
> Just an additional thought: I found Tux always quite clumsy. He is
> usually sitting arround, not making a whiff of a move. That never made a
> good impression to me.
it's a fat monolithic penguin :)
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> of this. sometimes they work, sometimes they don't!
Look here:
http://web.walfield.org/papers/hurd-installation-guide/english/hurd-install-guide.html#SEC7
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erm today, tomorrow "Hurd" will be the name of the
> > whole system.
>
> Sounds like fear talking. Standards are sensitive, so you want whatever
> you submit to be very "correct." I'd be happy to help increase the
> consistency of what you propose to submit
disparity of opinions after all.
> Generally, I think GNU alone is ambiguous and shouldn't be used given
> the climate today.
"GNU" and "GNU/Hurd" are valid names. The climate today is that when people
read "GNU/Hurd" they think "Hurd".
If we avoid the
pose it must be cross-compiled, how do you do this?
See http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/gnumach-download.html for source code.
To cross-compile, you need a cross-MiG (ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/mig/). If
you have Debian GNU/Linux, there's a mig-i386-gnu package you can use.
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should give a long list
> here), so if anybody has a clue...
You can take a look at the hardware compatibility guide:
http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/thug/gnumach_hardware.html
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violation of the draft strictly speaking
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ted by the current version of Neal
> Walfield's Install Guide, but I recall that
> previously the command was mke2fs -O sparse_super
> -o hurd /dev/hda2
Try with mke2fs -o hurd -O none /dev/hda2
and please tell wether it works
Neal, I'm not claiming any
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