So, I hear steam was written using C++
*sorry*
Just trying my hardest to kill this topic
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 12:53:26PM -0600, Brian 'Satertek' Irelan wrote:
Am I the only one in the world that has never had a problem with
Steam? Except for the Friends downtime (which hasn't happened as
often lately) I've never had any problems.
No you are not the only one. But the people who
Hello Maarten,
Monday, January 31, 2005, 3:06:13 PM, you wrote:
MvdZ Could we now please end this horribly off topic thread?
Let us end when we'll hear some reply from Valve. Why do they ignore
us? Why do their support doesn't work? I received yesterday a letter
from one guy who lives in USA out
For christ's sake this is a coding mailing list I'm sick of this crap
filling my inbox.
Can you *please* take it elsewhere.
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:10:45 +0200, Vyacheslav Djura
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Maarten,
Monday, January 31, 2005, 3:06:13 PM, you wrote:
MvdZ Could we now please
Vyacheslav Djura wrote:
Let us end when we'll hear some reply from Valve. Why do they ignore
us? Why do their support doesn't work?
I usually try to avoid responding to threads in a holy war (vi vs.
emacs, windows vs linux, etc). *Must resist urge to reply*, *Urge too
stong, can't resist urge to
Hello Jeffrey,
Monday, January 31, 2005, 4:44:07 PM, you wrote:
JbB RETURN IT and get your money back (most places have
JbB consumer protection laws where you are legally allowed to return
JbB something if you discover that it doesn't work as advertised).
I do not want to return the product, I
That's all very well, but I hardly think filling up *our* inboxes with
complaints is going to help your cause. Post on anti-steam sites, start
a petition, e-mail Valve - these are all valid ways of getting your
point across. Diluting this mailing list with off-topic, in my opinion,
isn't.
James
I don't suppose there's a way to block off topic spammers from the list?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vyacheslav Djura
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:59 AM
To: Jeffrey botman Broome
Subject: Re[2]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
I'm not sure what all the fuss over no-offline mode is anymore. I admit,
that I complained about it at first, but after working with the SDK for
awhile now, I don't have any problems with it, nor do many, many other MOD
teams. Valve has been able to keep their servers online and available so I
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Subject: Re[2]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:59:07 +0200
Hello Jeffrey,
Monday, January 31, 2005, 4:44:07 PM, you wrote:
JbB RETURN IT and get your money back (most places have
JbB consumer protection laws where you are legally allowed to return
JbB something
There's no offline mode? Does that mean no one can have LAN Partys with
CS/HL2DM?
I'm not sure what all the fuss over no-offline mode is anymore. I admit,
that I complained about it at first, but after working with the SDK for
awhile now, I don't have any problems with it, nor do many, many other
as the game you want to play has been completely
downloaded.
From: Knifa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:47:05 +
There's no offline mode? Does that mean no one
K There's no offline mode? Does that mean no one can have LAN Partys with
K CS/HL2DM?
Under same Steam account - no.
SG This is NOT on topic for this list. I don't see the need for valve to
SG respond for steam customer support on a coding list. Please stop spamming my
SG in-box with anti-steam
From: Vyacheslav Djura [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
To: Knifa hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re[2]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:02:08 +0200
K There's no offline mode? Does that mean no one can have LAN Partys with
K CS
OK, got 26 emails, in 12 hours, from this list, half of which for this very
thread, which makes an average of more than 1 email every 30 minutes landing
in my mailbox to teach me some fascinating things about the usefulness of
the Steam platform, and a lot of other unsortable things which I'll
This thread is no different to any other internet forum. The first
rule is always, Dont feed the trolls. Its too late for this thread,
its already pissing everyone off, but next time... can we learn from
our mistakes here? Please? No grief to feed on means no joy for the
trolls, so they go away
Justin Harvey schrieb:
Alright already. Go to the steam forums if you would like to bitch about steam,
this list is for coding.
how about reading? didn't mention steam at all in the mail you're quoting.
oh
and tell me, was someone holding a gun against your head, forcing you to read my
mail? no?
Let ppl complain about shitty Steam all over the place. Its what Valve
deserves for this idiot ideea.
- Original Message -
From: Legshot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Justin
Well, I thought this list was for Half-Life coding discussions. But if such
useful and time-saving mails keep cluttering my mailbox, perhaps I should
consider unsubscribing. That must be just me, of course.
--
Pierre-Marie Baty
http://forums.bots-united.com
- Original Message -
From: Dan
I am about to do the same. Stop this nonsense
Pierre-Marie Baty wrote:
Well, I thought this list was for Half-Life coding discussions. But if
such
useful and time-saving mails keep cluttering my mailbox, perhaps I should
consider unsubscribing. That must be just me, of course.
--
Pierre-Marie Baty
Am I the only one in the world that has never had a problem with
Steam? Except for the Friends downtime (which hasn't happened as
often lately) I've never had any problems.
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:19:00 -0600, Bad HAL 9000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am about to do the same. Stop this nonsense
Hello Justin,
Saturday, January 29, 2005, 2:14:52 AM, you wrote:
JH Alright already. Go to the steam forums if you would like to bitch about
steam,
JH this list is for coding.
No, let Valve programmers know what we think about their child.
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Best regards,
Vyacheslav
Ben Davison schrieb:
As was most of the above posters points.
I was not aware that I made any excuses...
Valve might have a teeny bit of influence but with most games the
publisher gets the final say with any physical packaging.
And now tell me who chose their publisher for them? Also please
/me yawns.
Alright already. Go to the steam forums if you would like to bitch about steam,
this list is for coding.
--
www.neotokyohq.com
Quoting Legshot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ben Davison schrieb:
As was most of the above posters points.
I was not aware that I made any excuses...
Valve
Knifa
Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 0:32
Aan: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Onderwerp: Re: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
I agree, it does use ALOT of memory. It's not like it even needs it. The
downloads go pretty quick for me though.
Make an option to turn off the skins?
Can't
Any of the devs have anything to say about this? I notice this as well,
sometimes when doing steam updates I have to just stop it b/c it consumes so
much. And I have a p4 3.0 w/1GB RAM. It uses up to like 70% of my CPU at
times.
Josh
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Hello knighthk,
Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 1:27:22 AM, you wrote:
kgn Okay now this is definately off-topic. Let's not have a steam-flame
kgn here, please..
Why? Let's talk here, because it seems that there is no other
official place where we can talk about that.
I also think that idea behind
Why? Let's talk here, because it seems that there is no other
official place where we can talk about that.
www.steampowered.com
Packaging is poor - discs are in envelopes, they are just useless
without Steam and there is even no manual!!! What a shame.
Vivendi's area of concern not valve.
Why
http://www.bots-united.com
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-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ben Davison
Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 14:57
Aan: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Onderwerp: Re: Re[2]: [hlcoders] Steam
: woensdag 26 januari 2005 14:09
Aan: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Onderwerp: RE: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Any of the devs have anything to say about this? I notice this as well,
sometimes when doing steam updates I have to just stop it b/c it
consumes so much. And I have a p4 3.0 w/1GB
-united.com
http://www.bots-united.com
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Josh
Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 14:09
Aan: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Onderwerp: RE: [hlcoders] Steam
: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Fixed 100% CPU use on startup
From steams changelog, so that's probably from before that they noticed
that bug.
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:14:39 +0100, S. Hendriks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Perhaps this is just a stupid comment (so if so, don't say it is,
makes
Hello Ben,
Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 3:57:16 PM, you wrote:
BD www.steampowered.com
Please be more careful reading my letter - I told you that we HAVE
TRIED several times and they just ignored us. The only thing I
received (3 or 4 weeks ago) was some letter your question is in the
queue for
I am not a
noob who found link to this mailing list today and just decided to
write here,
Nice personal insults :thumbsup:
Then you go on to call me a fanboy in other words.
As soon as you started with the personal insults it immediatly
invalidates all your arguments.
I'll be stepping out of
Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
I am not a
noob who found link to this mailing list today and just decided to
write here,
Nice personal insults :thumbsup:
Then you go
an argument.
Dan
- Original Message -
From: Ben Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
I am not a
noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
- Original Message -
From: Ben Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
decided to
write here,
That is very much
@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
I am not a noob who found link to this mailing list today and just
decided to
write here,
That is very much of an insult.
And usually when someone can't backup their points
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Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Ok we are about to go round in circles here.
He was calling ME a noob.
And i don't think you get my other points.
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:58:58 +0200, Dan Partelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I am not a noob who found
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Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ben Davison
Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 21:04
Aan: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Onderwerp: Re: Re[4]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Ok we are about to go round in circles here.
He
Hello Ben,
Wednesday, January 26, 2005, 8:11:01 PM, you wrote:
BD I am not a
BD noob who found link to this mailing list today and just decided to
BD write here,
BD Nice personal insults :thumbsup:
Sorry I didn't mean that to be personal insult to you. I wrote this because I
thought that you
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Ben Davison
Verzonden: woensdag 26 januari 2005 14:57
Aan: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Onderwerp: Re: Re[2]: [hlcoders] Steam: Technology failure
Why? Let's talk here, because it seems that there is no other
official place where we can talk
That is quite alright I did not intend to call you a noob and im sorry
you took it that way, what I meant works both ways for us.
Just because your having issues does not mean the vast majority of
people are having issues.
It also works out.
Just because the vast majority of people are not
S. Hendriks wrote:
Little children could we stay on topic like grown ups?
The subject is STEAM, we shared our points. If nobody has something to
say that could make this 'discussion' fruitable, i'd say, we stop this
discussion right now.
My secret plot its to bomb the Valve hq with Richard
Ben Davison wrote:
And for original poster, steam is currently using 0 CPU and 2 megs of
ram, it's not just a gui steam acts as an interface for a virtual
filesystem aswell.
Ok, so how do you explain following situtation ?
http://steam.ethome.sk/steam.png
If I open several Steam windows at same
Well then obviously thunderbird is bloated ware as well, and all it
does is read mail doesn't it?
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:42:21 +0100, Martin E.T. Misuth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben Davison wrote:
And for original poster, steam is currently using 0 CPU and 2 megs of
ram, it's not just a gui
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:16:28 +1000, Grant Christensen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well then obviously thunderbird is bloated ware as well, and all it
does is read mail doesn't it?
Hmmm, maybe Valve could scrap Steam and use Kermit instead?
Check out the features:
- Error-free file transfer.
Oh how sad, I remember using Kermit on dial-up BBS's back in the early
90's. Did you have to take me back there :)
Anyway - on topic, I have no problems at all with steam running.
Sicne they have fixed the slow load times on the SDK etc, it runs like
a charm, and that is on a 1.6 Celeron laptop.
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
Fist to tell, this is something like rant essay. Forgive my bad english
too, I'm not native speaker. I do really like Half-Lives and Valve for
delivering such great games. I think that idea behind Steam is good too,
actually I like the idea very
I agree, it does use ALOT of memory. It's not like it even needs it.
The downloads go pretty quick for me though.
Make an option to turn off the skins?
Can't be Steam made smaller, quicker and friendlier? Why that worm
rotten IE must be used for rendering of couple of news messages? Why it
eats so
Okay now this is definately off-topic. Let's not have a steam-flame
here, please..
Now about my name question.. :)
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