RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread spartibus
GENIUS!!!11 Why oh why hasn't valve thought of this before? Wow, you must have like, solved the problem, dude! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hld

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
I keep forgetting to clip the bottom of the emails off, they get so big for no particular reason. Anyway, I'd like to point out that although all these 'solutions' that you're all coming up with are brilliant ideas, none of us have any idea how the current system actually works on a core level, we

Re: [hlds] Bug in CS:Source de_aztec?

2004-12-17 Thread Stephen Micheals
correct Randomly each round diffrent paths will open and close. Its a quite nice interesting feature i would like to see in more maps. On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:21:05 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time), Richard Welsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >

Re: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
Well when was the last VAC update that you can remember, that is if you can remember thatr far back? I was a young man when the last VAC update came out On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:42:39 +1100, Bruce Bahamut Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, VAC currently works, it's the VAC disabling hack tha

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Each CDKey can only be used once, right? Why not have a system like this: * Since each steam account is already flagged with what games were owned/purchased by the account (server side) - Since you can login from anywhere and see your games list, have this information accessable by the multiplaye

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
This is wrong. You install STEAM, you don't need any game. You make an account, with a free email. You now have a valid STEAM account with a STEAMID already assigned to the account (NO CDKEY NEEDED FOR A STEAMID), and then you go do the exploit to get the games to display on your list. You don't

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
mm, non-steam works by a combination of things including you logging into the real steam client with your username and password, then copying the clientregistry.blob over to the non-steam directory from the steam one, then exiting the real steam, putting your account details in steamapps.cfg then s

Re: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
No, VAC currently works, it's the VAC disabling hack that makes it viable for non-steam users, else it'd be banning them, right? - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Whisper wrote: YAY!!! I have to voice my concerns though VAC will not work whilst NOSTEAM is still an issue, which is why I have to assume VAC

Re: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
YAY!!! I have to voice my concerns though VAC will not work whilst NOSTEAM is still an issue, which is why I have to assume VAC has not been updated on CS 1.6 nor employed at all in Source based games, since all you would end up doing is banning innocent people. On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:21:37 -050

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
So one has to wonder why, if Valve has complete control over which STEAM_ID's are assigned to which Account Name/Password combinations, what the difficulty is in checking these 2 details to be sure the person is who they say they are? On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:22:25 +1100, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
AFAIK the STEAM Account Creation Process works like this You Install your game You put your CD Key in You create a STEAM Account which then attaches THAT CD Key to your STEAM_ID You now have a legitamate STEAM Account which has several variables attached to it. STEAM_ID, Username, Password, E-mail

RE: [hlds] Bug in CS:Source de_aztec?

2004-12-17 Thread Richard Welsh
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Are you talking the staged event where depending on the rounds some ways in and out of cs_havana the doors or windows or fenced alley are blocked yes? Much like the rain effects in aztec they come and go randomly. I thought it was a new mapping

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server update

2004-12-17 Thread Richard Welsh
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I haven't had the money issue on my server. I have my cvar set as mp_startmoney 4500 ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/17/04 20:46:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server update The mo

Re: [hlds] Bug in CS:Source de_aztec? (Re: cs_havana)

2004-12-17 Thread List Keeper
That's normal I think, just part of the map, to change up the game every round. - Original Message - From: "pedro almeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 08:51 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Bug in CS:Source de_aztec? > Have you also noticed that a pi

RE: [hlds] Bug in CS:Source de_aztec?

2004-12-17 Thread pedro almeida
Have you also noticed that a piece of wall and a window appear/disappear every new round in cs_havana? -Mensagem original de TooL There is an area along a wall in the picture were we kept getting stuck. The exact spot is right where the crosshair is pointed - right where the CT was killed. H

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Napier, Kevin
I think you were looking for this: __ *--- |__| \ /\ / /_\ | |/ |* | | | \/ \/ / \ |__ |\ | o -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ray Spaulding Sent:

RE: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Napier, Kevin
Thanks for a response at least. 1999: We're working on tf2.. :P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] VAC on Source VAC is coming

Re: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Marcelo Bezerra
Will plugins receive some vac related events / callbacks? Or even expose functionality so the community may enhance it? Alfred Reynolds wrote: VAC is coming to Source, and it will be an updated VAC with additional anti-cheat functionality. We're working on this now. - Alfred ___

RE: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Lackatee
There! Its been said. Now go outside and get some sunshine or something. :) Lackatee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Spaulding Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC on Source I'm incline

Re: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Jay Carter
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Alfred Reynolds wrote: >VAC is coming to Source, and it will be an updated VAC with additional >anti-cheat functionality. We're working on this now. > >- Alfred > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list prefer

Re: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Ronny Schedel
A fix for non steam cracks would be nice too, because we could get rid of 90% of cheaters then... Greets Ronny VAC is coming to Source, and it will be an updated VAC with additional anti-cheat functionality. We're working on this now. - Alfred ___ To uns

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server update

2004-12-17 Thread Ray Spaulding
The money is still fucked up. Players start with 1,600. GG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server update

RE: [hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Ray Spaulding
I'm inclined to say thank you but I'm overwhelmed with thoughts of "it's about f**king time!" At least you FINALLY said something about it so daps for the brave step into the shadows of a LOOONNGGG-asked question. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

[hlds] VAC on Source

2004-12-17 Thread Alfred Reynolds
VAC is coming to Source, and it will be an updated VAC with additional anti-cheat functionality. We're working on this now. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server update

2004-12-17 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Also note that the correct syntax for specifying the ip and port to bind to for the server now is: -port -ip For example: -port 27040 -ip 127.0.0.1 Note that +port and +ip will also work but shouldn't be used as their use is deprecated. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[hlds] Source Dedicated Server update

2004-12-17 Thread Alfred Reynolds
We have released an update to the Source Dedicated server. To get this update run the hldsupdatetool. This update fixes the +ip command line parameter not working. More details can be found here: http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=news&id=378 - Alfred ___

[hlds] RE: Bug in CS:Source de_aztec?

2004-12-17 Thread Alan F
That's not the only place you can get stuck. I've been stuck between the boxes at the bottom of the stairs. The stairs leading back towards T spawn going from the double doors to the water. Fulltank. There is an area along a wall in the picture were we kept getting stuck. The exact spot

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Graham McMaster
It does, the actual Authentication appears to be done server side but if the Server has no master servers listed then that's gotta be away around it. Also the same with LAN servers. -Graham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce "Bahamut" A

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
They are, though non-STEAM appears to bypass this connection. - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Whisper wrote: Thats exactly what I thought! On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:09:56 -0800, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: forgive me if I'm wrong, but, aren't our CD keys tied to our steamid? I mean, I can't

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
Thats exactly what I thought! On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:09:56 -0800, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > forgive me if I'm wrong, but, aren't our CD keys tied to our steamid? > I mean, I can't go making 15 accounts and use the same CD key in all > of them. The second account will give an er

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread m0gely
K. Mike Bradley wrote: They would care if EVERYONE shut down there server until VAC is updated but you pussies wont get together on it. It's not that. It's just unrealistic. Don't pretend it is. I am with you in frustration over the lack of VAC updates, but we admins have zero power over it. On

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Ray Spaulding
At this point I think that it's time to use it on Valve for their latest update. **Thwack**!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BeNt Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" ha

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread BeNt
Thats the attitude I like to heargrrr Tiger. Who has the twack stick again? BeNt - Original Message - From: "K. Mike Bradley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? They

RE: [hlds] +ip issue..

2004-12-17 Thread Napier, Kevin
Thanks. :P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] +ip issue.. A fix is due later today. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [m

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Napier, Kevin
They're not tied to it the way your thinking about it. In the WON world you wonid was infact nailed down to your exact cdkey. In the steam world your cdkey is only associated with your account, it's not a factor of the actual steamid issued. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

[hlds] +ip issue..

2004-12-17 Thread Ruiner
I've not read anything official from valve yet, this has been quite some time.. did I miss anything? Any ETA? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

RE: [hlds] +ip issue..

2004-12-17 Thread Napier, Kevin
Only the crickets chriping. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ruiner Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] +ip issue.. I've not read anything official from valve yet, this has been quite some time.. did

RE: [hlds] +ip issue..

2004-12-17 Thread Alfred Reynolds
A fix is due later today. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ruiner Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] +ip issue.. > I've not read anything official from valve yet, this has been quite > some

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread K. Mike Bradley
They would care if EVERYONE shut down there server until VAC is updated but you pussies wont get together on it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OoksServer Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds]

[hlds] Bug in CS:Source de_aztec?

2004-12-17 Thread TooL
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] There is an area along a wall in the picture were we kept getting stuck. The exact spot is right where the crosshair is pointed - right where the CT was killed. He in fact was stuck and couldn't move.

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Ray Spaulding
And hense you begin to see the real problem we face. They really don't give a damn. They don't run ONE server for the community and never have. UBI, EA, AAO, and many other companies provide servers to their customers and Valve has proven time after time after time after time (ad infinitum) that th

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread OoksServer
They care - but how much do they care? How many thousands of CS servers are out there still running? If a hundred or even a thousand servers shut down in protest, who cares? There are plenty of servers still running. There is no shortage of servers to play on. Valve won't change the way they do thi

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread James Nine
I dont think they care if you shut down your server. - Original Message - From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? You missed my sarcasm and my point. Unlike you,

Re: [hlds] how do you enable logging?

2004-12-17 Thread m0gely
BlackYoda wrote: log_level "15" log_level is no longer a cvar. Most (if not all) of the other things you have are default values and really don't need to be set. The part you missed is the log command. It's "log on" now not "log 1". -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strik

RE: [hlds] how do you enable logging?

2004-12-17 Thread Ray Spaulding
Log on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BlackYoda Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 3:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] how do you enable logging? I have this in the autoexec.cfg file inside the cstrike\cfg directory. sv_logbans "

[hlds] I can't ban anyone on my server!

2004-12-17 Thread BlackYoda
Ever since the change before last we cannot ban anyone. banid does not work addip does not work kickid does work, so we can kick them! But we cannot ban. Is everyone having this problem or is it just me? Anyone know what could be wrong with my setup? Thanks!

[hlds] how do you enable logging?

2004-12-17 Thread BlackYoda
I have this in the autoexec.cfg file inside the cstrike\cfg directory. sv_logbans "1" log "1" log_level "15" sv_logsdir "logs" sv_logfile "1" Is that all I have to do to generate a log file? It does not seem to be working... Anyone have a pointer on enabling logging for CS Source? Thanks! _

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Clayton Macleod
forgive me if I'm wrong, but, aren't our CD keys tied to our steamid? I mean, I can't go making 15 accounts and use the same CD key in all of them. The second account will give an error stating that the CD key has already been registered to the first account. On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:48:08 -0800, D

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Darren J. Mason
CDKeys can and should be used FOR verification (since we all have them, and the internet cafes pay for them as well). Screw SteamIDs, email addys, and everything else. Why am I thinking that WON was a way better system than what we have now? Because Valve had a database of all our CDKEYS and it was

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread slyone
The STEAM_ID databases are as secure as any other online database system, the problem is their identification of registering users. They use an email address to tie it to a person. The problem isn't just the abundance of free email services. There are also temporary email services that allow you

[hlds] I agree.

2004-12-17 Thread Wazoo
I agree with you.. take it somewhere else.. - Wazoo > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:39:42 +1100 > From: "Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Rather then pointlessly vent

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #3305 - 9 msgs

2004-12-17 Thread Wazoo
Thanks Alfred for the bug update.. really appreciate the quick response. Wazoo > Subject: RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source update > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:36:53 -0800 > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-T

RE: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source update

2004-12-17 Thread Graham McMaster
They also broke +hostport and changed it to simply -port, god knows why, the server is still binding itself to Loopback but thankfully can still be accessed from the outside world. -Graham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edge100x Sent: 17

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Darren J. Mason
You missed my sarcasm and my point. Unlike you, I am a man of action - I shut my CS server down completely. I and my regulars agree that we will not operate or admin a server which benefits Valve when they refuse to address basic issues which directly affect the quality of game play (VAC). So put

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Napier, Kevin
It's not that bad, yeah yes you will find yourself wanting better tools for it. Still a better game though. :) Quote "I am 2 seconds away from just going with BF1942". Just go with it, says more then just threating to.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [hlds] mp_startmoney bug, CS: Source

2004-12-17 Thread Clayton Macleod
hmm, it's not consistent at all, seemingly. And it appears to ignore any attempt at changing the variable. On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 23:19:32 +1100, m1kest4r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes i noticed this earlier, some ppl are getting 1600 instead of 800. > not able to determine the cause of this yet.

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Marcelo Bezerra
Just did it. Not expecting an answer, though.. On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 18:39 +1100, Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote: > Rather then pointlessly venting anger on the list you could take the > time to email someone off-list at VALVe and they generally will respond > rather fast. > > - Bruce "Bahamut" And

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Marcelo de Paula Bezerra
You pretty much feel just like I do, and that was why I re-started the discussion about it. On Fri, 2004-12-17 at 02:23 -0600, Andrew R. Mitcham wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > They could have a source at VALVe after e

Re: [hlds] help

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
Was there a reply or a question in all of this we hadn't seen before? I can't find it On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 07:57:55 -0200, Ro & Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:12 AM > Subject:

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Whisper
20 minutes? More like 2 minutes unless they have a slow computer then you can make it 5 minutes if you are lucky, thats how ridiculous it is. We resort to IP bans now because they last that little bit longer than STEAM_ID bans which aren't worth the electrons you waste sending them down the line.

Re: [hlds] mp_startmoney bug, CS: Source

2004-12-17 Thread m1kest4r
yes i noticed this earlier, some ppl are getting 1600 instead of 800. not able to determine the cause of this yet. On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:47:02 -0800, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > getting 1600 here in the linux version too, going to try setting it to > 400 and see if it results in

Re: Re: [hlds] When will the \"nosteam\" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Jesper Sørensen
http://www.valvesoftware.com/people.php /Jesper > "I clearly remember reading from a GameSpy article that Gabe and other > > VALVe execs/employees where going to be more forthcoming and responsive > to the community now. They need to respond about an issue that is a pain > in the ass and has bee

[hlds] help

2004-12-17 Thread Ro & Lu
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:12 AM Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #3306 - 7 msgs Send hlds mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.valveso

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
"I clearly remember reading from a GameSpy article that Gabe and other VALVe execs/employees where going to be more forthcoming and responsive to the community now. They need to respond about an issue that is a pain in the ass and has been for a long time. It is going to take the community sayi

RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Andrew R. Mitcham
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] They could have a source at VALVe after emailing. But whenever I email someone at VALVe and get a response, I QUOTE IT. And reading the last 1,000,000 posts about how VALVe is working on it from some do

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
yeah if you like writing essays to ban people.. - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews Tony wrote: Quote "I am 2 seconds away from just going with BF1942" Good man it's alot better you know :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Tony
Quote "I am 2 seconds away from just going with BF1942" Good man it's alot better you know :) - Original Message - From: "Andrew R. Mitcham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 7:19 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed? Wow.

Re: [hlds] When will the "nosteam" hacks be fixed?

2004-12-17 Thread Bruce \"Bahamut\" Andrews
Hello, what's the chances THEY emailed someone there and found out? None of the VALVe employees are legally allowed to comment on any of it, with their NDA's and soforth, so you're not going to get an answer out of them regardless of how much whinging you do. Try emailing gabe if you know his emai