Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
Wow, I never knew this would start such a debate, I'm not trying to do anything horrible, there are trackers out there that kind of come up with stats tracking based on querying every server and obtaining all player names, I was merely suggesting we could all do something similar for our servers an

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Robert Whelan
thecatacombs hosts something similar for hlds and has proven to be pretty useful in tracking down player aliass used by cheaters. its flexible enough to sort by ip and player lookups by won/steamid or player name. we've easily spotted a cheater playing under one id and a quick search lead to ano

[hlds] Data Whore Topic :P

2008-06-15 Thread mjrnut
Credit companies have been doing this for how long :P Ever wonder how each person gets a credit score? Good stuff to those server admins that have the capability to perform such data mining. I understand that it is for the primary purpose of those offenders in our game severs. Conversely

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Jason Bodycott
There's a major difference between actively discriminating based on collected data and organizing collected data for use when the situation dictates it. I'm aware a later email from Tony stated that this is more of a slippery slope situation than a problem with the exact scenario at hand, but this

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Chad Austin
I am sure amny people here could make somethign like this, just provide a list of what info needs to be aggregated on a single server and if noone else wants to do it, I will setup a database, and I will write a program that collects this info from your server and inputs it into that database f

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Tony Paloma
True (though it could lead there with player donations and what not). I'm just reminding everyone to be careful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rian Brooks-Kane Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:58 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server maili

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Rian Brooks-Kane
I don't think your really comparing apples to apples here. We are talking about player tracking, where not talking about $$$ Rian On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Tony Paloma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But it's data mining. You should ask yourself if what you are doing (or > asking to do) is

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Tony Paloma
But it's data mining. You should ask yourself if what you are doing (or asking to do) is ethical. Example data mining scenario: Ravi Singh works for one of the major credit card companies in their data-processing center. The company is continuously developing new products to offer to customers an

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread JDoc0512
hmm... but I don't think there's a reason to treat running game servers as a job or they take it too seriously   I set up hlstatsx on my server and get enough donations every month to pay for the bandwidth and save surplus in my personal bank account. That's as far as I'll go lol. --- On Sun, 6

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
Heh, I'm a statistical whore. I like to know everything I can, and it's particularly useful against players who abuse my server. For example, in one instance, Tony Paloma had some jackass lagging his server with an exploit, a quick check of the source of the malicious traffic coupled with the play

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Rian Brooks-Kane
Everyone loves stats and data. Rian ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Daron Dodd
he wants to stalk users... seriously why would you want some super tracker that tells u were everyone has been / how long? On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Patrick Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you explain some of the reasons you would want this? > > Not being hostile, just wondering wh

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Patrick Shelley
Can you explain some of the reasons you would want this? Not being hostile, just wondering why, what info you would store and what purposes it could serve. On 6/15/08, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You know, if enough server ops start getting huge player databases, w

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
You know, if enough server ops start getting huge player databases, we could merge them into one super player tracker. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JDoc0512 Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing

Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay.

2008-06-15 Thread JDoc0512
so the plugin logs disconnects/names/IPs/etc in a MySQL database? can it also be used to ban? --- On Sat, 6/14/08, bl4nkeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: bl4nkeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Another command to crash servers. Fuckyay. To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing lis