Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Andy C
Is this a server update? I ran hldsupdate and got no new files this morning: Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation Checking/Installing 'left 4 dead 2 common' version 11 Checking/Installing 'left 4 dead 2 win32 dedicated server' version 2 HLDS installation up to date The Steam u

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Matthew Gottlieb
If you are running steam off a portable drive, it is most likely fat32. Also, people running multiple operating systems still generally will have at least one fat32 partition for compatibility reasons. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Mike Fleener wrote: > I am a real world certified tech and the

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Saint K .
Maybe you've received it trough auto update? Current version reads: version : 2.0.0.4 4045 Cheers -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andy C Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:03 PM To: Half-Life dedicate

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Andy C
I do not believe autoupdate works with Windows server and I'm the only one that runs the updates. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Saint K. wrote: > Maybe you've received it trough auto update? > Current version reads: version : 2.0.0.4 4045 > > Cheers > > ___

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Saint K .
Have you checked your currect version? If its different then I posted, delete your clientregistery.blob and try again. Otherwise, keep wondering how it updated by itself :D -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behal

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Richard Eid
Well you're on the right content versions, so I wouldn't worry too much. The only way that could have happened is if you updated and forgot that you updated. -Richard Eid On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Andy C wrote: > I do not believe autou

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Andy C
Servers don't have a clientregistry.blob file. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Saint K. wrote: > Have you checked your currect version? If its different then I posted, > delete your clientregistery.blob and try again. Otherwise, keep wondering > how it updated by itself :D > > _

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Andy C
The update came out after I was in bed last night so it didn't update unless by some miracle autoupdates are suddenly working on Windows servers. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Richard Eid wrote: > Well you're on the right content versions, so I wouldn't worry too much. > The only way that cou

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Saint K .
I'd doublecheck if I were you ;) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andy C Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:23 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Upda

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread ics
So what's the ClientRegistry.blob in /home/servers/.steam folder then? They do have it. -ics Andy C kirjoitti: > Servers don't have a clientregistry.blob file. > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Saint K. wrote: > > >> Have you checked your currect version? If its different then I posted, >

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Mike Fleener
I always convert fat32 to NTFS on portable drives. I transfer or backup files that are over 4GB all the time, can't do that with a fat32. Fat32 fragments much more than NTFS, has many other features missing. No Windows server should be running on a fat32 partition for security reasons alone, not

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Blood Letter
There is no reason FAT32 would be less secure than NTFS. The built-in security permissions of NTFS are pointless, and the OS can ignore them at any time. The only "security" NTFS has is encryption, which no one uses, is weak compared to non-file system-based methods, and in general is a pointle

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Ook
I remember a while ago one of our "certified" techs bragging about how bullet proof his box was because he was using ntfs. At the time I kept a DOS boot disk with me that had ntfs drivers on it so I could boot from floopy and still access ntfs partitions. It took less then five minutes to wipe t

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Shane Arnold
Truth. Filesystems are only as good as the drivers driving them. I daresay though that most of the "NTFS rocks" comments are those that haven't used a *NIX system with items such as Reiser/XFS and ext4 ;) Ook wrote: > I remember a while ago one of our "certified" techs bragging about how > bul

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Mike Fleener
LOL none of my servers or my customer servers have a floppy drive!! Security is not just one thing it is layers of protection which include locking up the servers in a secure room, NTFS permissions, real password settings, layered firewalls, etc. Like I tell my customers, the only truly safe system

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Matt Stanton
The bottom line is that there are a million ways to make any server insecure, and a million more ways to make a windows server insecure. ntfs will help with security if and only if your users are set up with only the permissions they should have, and only if your server is not able to be access

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Andy C
Does this conversation really belong in the HLDS mailing list? Seems liek it would be more appropriate for a computer security mailing list. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Matt Stanton < inflatablesoulm...@brothersofchaos.com> wrote: > The bottom line is that there are a million ways to make any

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Blood Letter
It doesn't belong here, nor does it have anything to do with security. I will continue to correct some flat out incorrect information though. FAT32 corruption has nothing to do with the drivers implementing it - it's a fundamental weakness of a file allocation table based file system. 99% of t

Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Available

2009-12-05 Thread Mike Fleener
If your games servers are hacked, me and my customers could get more spam and/or other types of attacks. If you run a server you should at least try to keep it secure. With FAT32 it doesn't even slow anyone down, at least with NTFS it will take a little time and I should get notified that someone i