Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Mad Scientist
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 03:06 pm, Jeremy Brooking wrote: > Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software that is 100% > secure and foolproof. > > Oh, you cant, nevermind then. qmail hasn't had a security patch since 1997 and there is a reward if you find an exploit so I'm sure people h

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Rick and Cheryl
At 12:01 PM 11/26/02 -0800, you wrote: Message: 12 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:56:15 -0500 From: Chip Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "A policy that allows for one warning is a license to steal until caug

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 12:34, James Clark wrote: > > > > I may be biased, but I don't think that's a good idea until VAC is > > > > 100% accurate > > > > > > I agree. > > > > > > > (which is highly improbably of ever becoming a reality.) > > > > > > I don't agree. > > > > > > > Then im sure youd be

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Matthew Hartwig
I was going to say any Microsoft product, but you picked the winner :) -Original Message- From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive Windows 95. bwahahha.

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
> > > I may be biased, but I don't think that's a good idea until VAC is > > > 100% accurate > > > > I agree. > > > > > (which is highly improbably of ever becoming a reality.) > > > > I don't agree. > > > > Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software that is 100% > secure and foolproof.

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
> How many software products do you use that are 100% accurate and > stable, not only for you, but for thousands of users on thousands of > different machines with thousands of different configurations? Windows 95 =) bwahahhaha ___ To unsubscribe, edit

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 11:42, James Clark wrote: > > I may be biased, but I don't think that's a good idea until VAC is > > 100% accurate > > I agree. > > > (which is highly improbably of ever becoming a reality.) > > I don't agree. > Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software that is 1

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Chip Marshall
On November 27, 2002, James Clark sent me the following: > > "A policy that allows for one warning is a license to steal until caught." > - UNIX system administration handbook. > > > Meaning that people, like myself, would no longer be able to play CS > > until we either purchased a new CD fo

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
"A policy that allows for one warning is a license to steal until caught." - UNIX system administration handbook. > Meaning that people, like myself, would no longer be able to play CS > until we either purchased a new CD for a new CD Key or stole one, > if we were cheating or if VAC had

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread matthew gossage
How do we join this club then :-) - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Brooking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive > On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 19:27, Eric (Deacon) wrote: > > > "User has been bann

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 23:37, Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson wrote: > A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be > acceptable > A second time offender should get a week ban. > A third time offender is permanantly banned. Yeah, that sounds, ok, but do my false positives count?

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 08:56, Chip Marshall wrote: > So you suggest we permanently ban anyone who VAC detects as cheating? > Meaning that people, like myself, would no longer be able to play CS > until we either purchased a new CD for a new CD Key or stole one, > if we were cheating or if VAC had a

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 19:27, Eric (Deacon) wrote: > > "User has been banned for Eric (Deacon) fan club membership" > > Are you kidding? They programmed reserved slots into all public HL > servers that only members can use. It's sneaky, but not having to type > "retry" over and over again is a gre

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Chip Marshall
On November 27, 2002, James Clark sent me the following: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:37:41AM +, Gu?mundur ?. Ingvarsson wrote: > > A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be > > acceptable > > A second time offender should get a week ban. > > A third time offender

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC - Is it even working?

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 09:16:22AM -0600, Rusty Zipper wrote: > Quick question for you ner.. er, guys, about VAC. I have had it running on > my servers for some time now, and I've NEVER seen it catch anyone. Am I > doing something wrong or what? I mean, it says "Server is Secure" when it > start

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:37:41AM +, Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson wrote: > > Okay, just to get this all straight > > A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be > acceptable > A second time offender should get a week ban. > A third time offender is permanantly banned. >

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC - Is it even working?

2002-11-26 Thread GrapeApe
sorry try a grep -i secure on your logs, you should see peeps getting caught coming into the server -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rusty Zipper Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC - Is

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC - Is it even working?

2002-11-26 Thread GrapeApe
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rusty Zipper Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC - Is it even working? Quick question for you ner.. er, guys, about VAC. I have had it running on my s

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC - Is it even working?

2002-11-26 Thread Zachary H. Sloane
> Quick question for you ner.. er, guys, about VAC. I have had it running on > my servers for some time now, and I've NEVER seen it catch anyone. Am I > doing something wrong or what? I mean, it says "Server is Secure" when it > starts up, what else should I look for? That's it. I haven't see

[hlds_linux] VAC - Is it even working?

2002-11-26 Thread Rusty Zipper
Quick question for you ner.. er, guys, about VAC. I have had it running on my servers for some time now, and I've NEVER seen it catch anyone. Am I doing something wrong or what? I mean, it says "Server is Secure" when it starts up, what else should I look for? __

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson
Okay, just to get this all straight A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be acceptable A second time offender should get a week ban. A third time offender is permanantly banned. This would mean the following If you are not extraordinary dim witted you would compl