Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-27 Thread Robert Paulson
I hope someone at Valve at least looks at the declining player count and the gametracker rankings. I know they don't take server owner opinions seriously, but the numbers speak for themselves. It is sad that a few people feel the need to defend this decision so much that they lie about things like

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-26 Thread dan
On 27/02/2014 02:51, Robert Paulson wrote: 1) TF2 has fewer players after community servers were removed by default on January 28th. Player count is the most unbiased measure and the facts show more was lost than was gained. Your one personal experience isn't going to change that. The number of

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-26 Thread 1nsane
Funny thing about that. They never competed equally. Valve servers always had the advantage and yet community were still more popular despite that. At the minimum valve servers got new players for the first 8 hours of their gameplay. The cvar still exists: tf_matchmaking_noob_hours_played 8.0 On

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Paulson
I'm tired of repeating myself to people who only read the last email written. So I will address the most common arguments in one post that can be copy and pasted every time. 1) TF2 has fewer players after community servers were removed by default on January 28th. Player count is the most unbiased

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-26 Thread dan
On 25/02/2014 02:24, Weasels Lair wrote: Actually, if you plot that over the last 12 months, and throw some other games in for comparison ... it doesn't look related at all. That's unsurprising since it's been previous related to every other time he's posted saying the game is dying in the pa

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-25 Thread Robert Paulson
would work for > both > > > > of us? I think having a notification/box pop up upon opening the > > > quickplay > > > > after having play X hours with default filters set - to alert the > user > > if > > > > they wish to expand their search fil

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-25 Thread Erik-jan Riemers
wish to expand their search filter to find community servers as > well > > > as valve servers (with an easy yes/no button). > > > > > > Sent from Blackberry. > > > From: ics > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:44 > > > To: Half-Life dedicated L

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-24 Thread Weasels Lair
gt; after having play X hours with default filters set - to alert the user if > > they wish to expand their search filter to find community servers as well > > as valve servers (with an easy yes/no button). > > > > Sent from Blackberry. > > From: ics > > Sent: Wedn

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-24 Thread Robert Paulson
erver mailing list > Reply To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers > > > Valve did nice job of alienating players from community servers. 2/4 of > the 24 slot servers i run are now dead in the water

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-21 Thread Abdulrahman Abdulkawi
list Reply To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers Valve did nice job of alienating players from community servers. 2/4 of the 24 slot servers i run are now dead in the water. -ics Erik-jan Riemers kirjoitti: &

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-19 Thread ics
Valve did nice job of alienating players from community servers. 2/4 of the 24 slot servers i run are now dead in the water. -ics Erik-jan Riemers kirjoitti: Mine already died, only custom servers are still doing fine. Everything but stock.. after +- 6 years of having a successful stock server

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-19 Thread Erik-jan Riemers
Mine already died, only custom servers are still doing fine. Everything but stock.. after +- 6 years of having a successful stock server it has now died completely. 2014-02-19 17:39 GMT+01:00 Invalid Protocol < invalidprotocolvers...@gmail.com>: > Very few players use the server browser or chang

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-19 Thread Invalid Protocol
Very few players use the server browser or change the default settings when looking for playing a classic game (not prop-hunt, saxon, custom maps etc...). Now Quickplay sends almost all players to Valve servers. I doubt that many community servers running classic maps / gameplay will survive. On

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-18 Thread Robert Paulson
This isn't really a big deal. As I predicted, just about no one uses quickpick. Only 5% of our players now are from quickplay and 1% use quickpick. I am sure everyone here using Doctor McKay's plugin can confirm this. Being the default for play now is too much of an advantage and there's not enou

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-18 Thread Fletcher Dunn
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers If any other option has "Don't care" chosen, the "Gameserver Host" option will be interpreted as "Don't care". I've already informed Valve and they are aware of this. Dr. McK

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-16 Thread Doctor McKay
If any other option has "Don't care" chosen, the "Gameserver Host" option will be interpreted as "Don't care". I've already informed Valve and they are aware of this. Dr. McKay www.doctormckay.com On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Paul wrote: > I agree, othrewise that kind of makes the whole i

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-16 Thread Paul
I agree, othrewise that kind of makes the whole idea unfair to communities and players if that's how they intended it to be (when opting to go to a community server). On 15 February 2014 19:06, Abdulrahman Abdulkawi wrote: > Valve servers are showing up when searching for "Community Servers". >

[hlds_linux] [hlds] Valve Only Servers in Community Servers

2014-02-15 Thread Abdulrahman Abdulkawi
Valve servers are showing up when searching for "Community Servers". If this is "how it's meant to be", then that needs to be changed - If we don't get listed in 'Valve servers' option, then Valve Servers shouldn't get listed for "Community Servers". All other filters are 'default'.