Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-12 Thread Andy Shinn
y" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? Nathan Marcus wrote: Of course you would say that. Who wouldn't in your position? And what's my position? -- - m0gely http://quake2.

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-12 Thread Jess Kitchen
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, Andrew Forsberg wrote: [snip] > IMHO, if you're aiming for chance players with a marketing strategy of > 'grab the lowest first octet IP', then you're grasping at straws > anyway... If you've gambled all on an undocumented system like that then > you're as foolish as a h4x0r

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread Andrew Forsberg
On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 22:30 -0500, Nathan Marcus wrote: > You were on top, now your at the bottom. Its hard to leave the life from > the top. Nothing really relevent to the HLDS_linux mailing list, I'm saying > it would be crappy if my server was on top, then sent down. Just a very > personal vi

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread Andy Shinn
- From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? Nathan Marcus wrote: Of course you would say that. Who wouldn't in your position? And what's my position? -- -

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread Nathan Marcus
eyond that. - Original Message - From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? > Nathan Marcus wrote: > > Of course you would say that. Who wouldn't in y

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread m0gely
Nathan Marcus wrote: Of course you would say that. Who wouldn't in your position? And what's my position? -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, pleas

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread Nathan Marcus
Of course you would say that. Who wouldn't in your position? >I just think it was a bad move to change out one > broken system for another. - Original Message - From: "m0gely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [hld

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread m0gely
kama wrote: I have the servers packed from day1... with or without the finaloctet being low. You just have to work to get the volume you want. build up a good reputation and they will be on your server. Certainly this isn't false, but the new method did affect people. I'm sure you (and a few other

RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-11 Thread kama
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005, ironchef wrote: > Andy Shinn wrote: > > Can someone explain to me why this is such a big topic? This is not > > the first time I have seen this discussed. What is wrong with sorting > > the list by the best ping or map you want to play? I don't get how > > different IP address

RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread ironchef
Andy Shinn wrote: > Can someone explain to me why this is such a big topic? This is not > the first time I have seen this discussed. What is wrong with sorting > the list by the best ping or map you want to play? I don't get how > different IP address makes one server more favorable over another. >

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Andy Shinn
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big topic? This is not the first time I have seen this discussed. What is wrong with sorting the list by the best ping or map you want to play? I don't get how different IP address makes one server more favorable over another. If I am missing something p

Re: [SPAM] RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Steve Tilson
wards (i.e up and down the numerically ordered list of addresses). - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Sykes Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : F

RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? > Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > The master servers return the list of servers starting from the > > users IP address fanning outwards (i.e up and down the numerically > > ordered list of addresses). > > I think the list shoul

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread m0gely
Nelson Marques wrote: Don't discriminate people. Everyone has the same rights, not only the big butt GSP's. The best way is people to start using the FAVOURITS lists... afterall, they exist for something. Best way is still to get all the servers from a master server and sort by ping or name or what

RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread ironchef
m0gely wrote: > I think the list should be zipped and transfered (or something) to the > client where it's unzipped and the *clients* server list starts > pinging each IP. This would give you-the-player the best connection > to what servers there are. Combine this with a karma/longevity/ave > pin

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Nelson Marques
Don't discriminate people. Everyone has the same rights, not only the big butt GSP's. The best way is people to start using the FAVOURITS lists... afterall, they exist for something. Best way is still to get all the servers from a master server and sort by ping or name or whatever. m0gely wrote: Al

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread m0gely
Alfred Reynolds wrote: The master servers return the list of servers starting from the users IP address fanning outwards (i.e up and down the numerically ordered list of addresses). I think the list should be zipped and transfered (or something) to the client where it's unzipped and the *clients* s

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread List Keeper
>From what I've read in the past it is dependand on what *YOUR* IP address is. - Original Message - From: "James Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 02:36 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? >

RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Alfred Reynolds
, 2005 10:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just bringing up an > old topic here. Can everyone confirm the

RE: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread James Sykes
er is quite rare. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan Marcus Sent: 10 January 2005 20:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? Not as far as I can see. I

Re: [SPAM] Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Steve Tilson
low 4th octet it seems to be bogus. - Original Message - From: "James Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plai

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread Nathan Marcus
James Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:34 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet? > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Just bringing up an old topi

[hlds_linux] Steam Server Lists : Favor lower first octet?

2005-01-10 Thread James Sykes
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just bringing up an old topic here. Can everyone confirm the steam server list still favors ips with a lower first octet? Refreshing the steam list here for Europe most ips are very low, its quite diffi